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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Well you might, whispering. BUT the question remains SUBSTANTIAL improvement...not any improvement. The Rues do not call for ANY improvement. If subtle improvement were the deal I would resubmit most of 4400 cover scans, but the difference is NOT substantial it is subtle and in these particular cases while sometimes the improvement may be in SOME areas the overall image quality is degraded, therefore the answer for me is NO and always will be. Dopn't downgrade the image and expect me to vote Yes, it won't happen.

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This conversation has been had before.

I, at one time, took no votes on scans very personally.  I soon found out, through asking members of my family, which of the scans they thought looked better, holding the actual cover.  I found out that each had differing opinions.

too dark
too yellow
both original and contributed. 

These images are like digital pictures.  For a 4x6 picture, a 5MP camera is more than enough, but would not use that same camera for an 11x13. 

For most computer monitors having  between a 65 to 130 pixels per inch, looking at side by side comparisons of an image at 100ppi and 300ppi may not have to much discernible difference, as long as both images started from a quality scan.

I do not blow up the images on screen to enormous sizes, just to see how much distortion I can induce into the picture.  I take the image on screen for what it is at the native resolution presented.  I pull out the dvd case and compare.  If I see a difference, I note to myself what the difference is.  I then decide if the difference is worse or better and how much so.

I will vote based upon my perceptions and nothing else.

Sometimes I will see a significant improvement, and still see errors.  I will vote yes and comment on the problems that I see.

Sometimes I will see not much difference and vote no.

Sometimes I will not have the right release, and unless it is something obvious, will vote neutral.

Sometimes it will be worse, and I will vote no.

If I vote yes or no, take it for what it is worth.

Opinions are like  BLEEP, everybody has one and they all stink.

Nothing personal, just observation...
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Completely agree with Charlie here. Everyone see an image differently.different parts will pop out more then other parts on different people. And this will effect how well they see the scan.  Which is why every time I contribute a scan... I fully expect to see no votes (even if I seldomly get them).
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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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That said, there are some users I have seen who vote against any scans which would replace theirs. There was one I tried to replace one for a UK Blu-ray several months back where the online held a poorly coloured/contrasted version. It appeared that only I and the previous contributor had the title and they voted "No" and it was declined. Do I think it was wrong to decline it, of course but I just locked it and kept my (IMHO) improved one to myself.


I've seen this as well. I've also seen it where some vote biased against some contributors for vindictive and immature reasons.

When it comes to cover scans maybe there shouldn't be a vote system for them. If Invelos were to approve / decline contributed images based upon calibrated professional equipment that would be great. After all, I'm sure that Invelos has a desire to present a superior product to their customers, and superior scans really are empirically obvious with calibrated professional equipment. This way Invelos customers would receive customer contributed (and THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH - ALL OF YOU!!!) scans that are superior and not that which are inferior.

Please, when it comes to cover scans, let's have Invelos choose us the best!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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You have quite an imagination, utch. It's out in left fiel but it's quite an imagination.

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Problem with that is Invelos does not have every dvd ever made to see that it matches the cover. Colors could be off.... could be re-release covers... or any number of things that couldn't be known without actually having the case there in front of  them to know if the scan is right or not. So Invelos needs to count on the voters to be sure of such things.

I know I personally wouldn't be too happy to have images where the colors are off when I download them... just because they didn't know how the colors should look or if the brightness or contrast is turned up to high... just because they couldn't compare the scans to the actual case.

Nope... think it is much better having people that actually have the discs to help them out in such situations.
Pete
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