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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: Simplified further:
"Exclude any paragraph dedicated to accolades." That would be closer to what the designed intent was, Ken. The Overview is primarily a synopsis of the film. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: Simplified further:
"Exclude any paragraph dedicated to accolades." That may be too simplified. Such a paragraph could be in the middle of an overview. in which case I think it would belong. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | Well, let's discuss that. Why would it belong? | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Posted: | | | | If I understand it correctly we would eliminate the 1st paragraph in the following overviews. Either that or I don't understand what you are proposing. From Hancock Quote: Academy Award® nominee Will Smith (Best Actor, The Pursuit of Happyness, 2006) stars in this action-packed comedy as Hancock, a sarcastic, hard-living and misunderstood superhero who has fallen out of favor with the public.
When Hancock grudgingly agrees to an extreme makeover from idealistic publicist Ray Embrey (Jason Bateman, Juno ), his life and reputation rise from the ashes and all seems right again -- until he meets a woman (2003 Academy Award® winner Charlize Theron, Best Actress, Monster) with similar powers to his and the key to his secret past. From The Cain Mutiny: Quote: Nominated for seven Academy Awards® in 1955, including Best Picture and Best Actor, THE CAINE MUTINY is a classic film about the unstable Captain Queeg (Humphrey Bogart) and his tumultuous command of an old minesweeper and her weary crew.
On the high seas during the dramatic battles of World War II, Queeg's by-the-book approach pushes his crew and his popular second-in-command, Lt. Maryk (Van Johnson), to the breaking point. After a series of questionable orders, Maryk confronts Queeg when he orders the ship directly into the path of a deadly typhoon. Maryk invokes naval code and relieves Queeg of his command, forcing the crew to mutiny. Once safely back in port, Maryk is court-martialed for treason, setting off a tense trial that exposes the true state of Queeg's mind. Nominated for Best Actor, Humphrey Bogart gives a searing performance as he is systematically broken down in this classic tale of military conduct in a time of war. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I am just afraid of people trying to dissect the overviews on what they think belongs and what they don't think belongs. Since the rules do say now not to add reviews unless they are incorporated into the overview... in such a case it would belong. I can see removing it from the beginning or the end as beingok... but to take something out of the middle of a 3 or more paragraph overview just don't seem right to me and I think opens a can of worms where we will have a bunch of topics about if this paragraph belongs or not. Something I wouldn't really want to go through. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | No, neither of those paragraphs would be removed as they are not dedicated to accolades. They include accolades but also other information and so would be included. In contrast, the following is dedicated to accolades: Quote: Dustin Hoffman is a "triumph" (People) in an Oscar winning role, and Tom Cuise is "terrific" (ABC Radio) in a film that's "fascinating, touching and full of smart surprises" (Newsweek) | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | I think it should say any "prose" which is not a stand alone review, tagline or list of features should be considered as part of the Overview.
A sentence that imbeds review quotes shouldn't be excluded just because it contains "accollades", IMHO. | | | Hal |
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| Posted: | | | | OK - take a look at the Fox Studio Classic series. Mony are similar to this: Leave Her to Heaven: Quote: This film won the Oscar® for Best Cinematography (Color) and received three other Academy Award® nominations: Best Actress for Gene Tierney, Best Sound Recording, and Best Art Direction/Interior Decoration (Color).
Based on the best-selling novel by Ben Ames Williams, Leave Her to Heaven is a stylish psychological thriller starring Gene Tierney as Ellen, the stunningly beautiful wife of handsome writer Richard Harland, played by Cornel Wilde. Ellen panics as her perfect marriage unravels and Harland’s work and invalid brother demand more and more of his attention. Her husband becomes unnerved by her compulsive and jealous behavior. And when the people close to him are murdered, one by one, it is obvious that this dream marriage has become a full-fledged nightmare. Using the suggested rule we would remove the 1st paragraph... right? |
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| Posted: | | | | Personally I hope not... as that would be taking away good information about the film (award winners and nominations). but that is just my opinion on the matter. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 10, 2007 | Posts: 4,282 |
| Posted: | | | | I've been using "accolades" instead of what the current rules use: "reviews". Assuming we left it as "reviews", the first paragraph would be included. | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting lyonsden5: Quote:
Using the suggested rule we would remove the 1st paragraph... right? That's my understanding and I think a good rule. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: A sentence that imbeds review quotes shouldn't be excluded just because it contains "accollades", IMHO. Agreed, but a paragraph with no content other than strung-together review quotes would be considered 'dedicated to reviews'. | | | Invelos Software, Inc. Representative |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ken Cole: Quote: I've been using "accolades" instead of what the current rules use: "reviews". Assuming we left it as "reviews", the first paragraph would be included. Oops I guess the question is is there enough of them to justify adding a rule that IMO will cause at least some confusion? |
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| Posted: | | | | I think it is causing quite a bit of confusion at this point. I know I am lost anyway! | | | Pete |
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| Posted: | | | | I am trying to figure out why they need to be excluded. What harm do they do? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | No idea... I think I would prefer to just leave them in myself. | | | Pete |
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