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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | *Makes mental note to actually download this one from invelos' database, because parsing of it will take forever. It's obviously an IMDB clone.* | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,851 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Graveworm: Quote: If you remove all of those in the belief that some may be inaccurate then, as has been said, you will lose some real nuggets, some of them are definitely in there and are easy to verify. If they are easy to verify then putting them back in the profile should be easy. Quote: Losing good data is as bad and probably worse than allowing bad data to remain. I strongly disagree with this. Bad data is insidious. Quote: In this case it's highly likely that most of the uncredited are in the movie so why remove them? I don't know whether it's likely or not, since we have no documentation and I don't recognize the vast majority of the names of the uncredited entries. But don't worry, I started this thread just to ask for opinions, I'm not planning on clearing away any of the dross from your "golden nuggets". --------------- |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | I've just kinda skimmed over this thread but would like to add: I'm so happy I don't own a title with 1200 uncredited cast. What movie are we speaking of, so I can be sure never to get it? | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Does it seem ridiculous to anyone besides me that there is an online profile with 1238 uncredited cast members Yes. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: Quoting scotthm:
Quote: Does it seem ridiculous to anyone besides me that there is an online profile with 1238 uncredited cast members Yes. I agree. |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | I have that title, it's also in the Swedish profile I believe (no doubt a copy of the US profile) but I can't say that it bothers me the slightest, nor do I find it ridiculous. It's a nice little piece of film history. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,805 |
| Posted: | | | | Just for my own curiosity, I did a little test.
Not to sway opinions one way or the other, or take sides, or anything like that. Just a test of curiosity.
I cleaned my local of all unused cast and crew.
I then refreshed my profile of Around the World in 80 Days from the online, to re-include the uncredited actors.
After this, I once again cleared my local of all unused cast and crew.
1102 names from the profile, contained no other single credit in my collection of about 2200 movies.
Take away from that what you will. Interesting fact none the less. Wonder what the number would've been had my collection been 3000? | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | MerriK:
I can find many actors in that list wit one crdeit andothers (uncredited) with 25 or more. This proves what exactly. (pulls hair)
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Bess Flowers 36 Charles Horvath 26 Allen Jaffe 15 Keye Luke 33 Richard Loo 21 Mike Mazurki 21
That proves NOTHING, yes the majority have a single credit, even in my list.But that's not relevant either.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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Registered: March 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,851 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: This proves what exactly. Nothing. The number of times one of these uncredited actors appears in your collection has no bearing on whether or not they appeared in this film. The fact is we'll apparently never know if they belong in this profile because they're uncredited, undocumented, and apparently untouchable. --------------- |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: This proves what exactly. Nothing. The number of times one of these uncredited actors appears in your collection has no bearing on whether or not they appeared in this film.
The fact is we'll apparently never know if they belong in this profile because they're uncredited, undocumented, and apparently untouchable.
--------------- The point is as I have previously stated, scott. If it were your FOUR days of work, and not the Original Contributor how would feel about some user just wanting to throw that in the trash and i would defend YOU just as vociferously. Additionally, as noted there are nuggets of gold in there, the people I listed are not exactly unknown, though many of these people, are...at least to me. The data was put in long before rules and long before we were not allowed without documentation. It does not need to be removed or even discussed AGAIN for that matter. The original Contributor did not even use a scraper, he typed each one the hard way, one at at tiome. And personally speaking, I find the whole subject to be offensive simply because of the amount of time that was invested. The ONLY person I would vote yes to removal is the Original Contributor himself, simply because that would then invalidate my defense of his work, but due to the amount of gold in the list I don't think he will do that. I have proven that there is gold in that thar data. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: The original Contributor did not even use a scraper, he typed each one the hard way, one at at tiome.
Skip Just because he/she didn't use a scraper, it's still IMDB data. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | The above is simply flame-bait.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | No, not at all. It's just an apparent double standard. I'll give credit to the person who copied over all the names as it was no doubt a ton of work, but let's not pretend where the names came from. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,372 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: The point is as I have previously stated, scott. If it were your FOUR days of work, and not the Original Contributor how would feel about some user just wanting to throw that in the trash and i would defend YOU just as vociferously. Additionally, as noted there are nuggets of gold in there, the people I listed are not exactly unknown, though many of these people, are...at least to me. The data was put in long before rules and long before we were not allowed without documentation. It does not need to be removed or even discussed AGAIN for that matter. The original Contributor did not even use a scraper, he typed each one the hard way, one at at tiome. And personally speaking, I find the whole subject to be offensive simply because of the amount of time that was invested. The ONLY person I would vote yes to removal is the Original Contributor himself, simply because that would then invalidate my defense of his work, but due to the amount of gold in the list I don't think he will do that. Good to know that your position is if someone does a lot of work then we shouldn't be able to touch their contributions. One question though, does this apply to just any someone that does the work or do they have to be a friend of yours before you defend them "vociferously"? |
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