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Hardly a threat as you don't contribute accurate data. As said above, give me 20 minutes of PMs and I could convert you. However, if you want to be Kiwi    about it, keep your data local and enjoy the use of the program, and the contribution work of others.

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Not meant to be a threat only a disappointed user. My data is highly accurate because I check it and cross check it. It's the perception that because it doesn't come from the disc it must be wrong is the broken premise.

BTW Kiwi is a reference to a New Zealander, not Australian. Its like calling a Canadian an American.

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Hardly a threat as you don't contribute accurate data. As said above, give me 20 minutes of PMs and I could convert you. However, if you want to be Kiwi    about it, keep your data local and enjoy the use of the program, and the contribution work of others.

Rich

Not meant to be a threat only a disappointed user. My data is highly accurate because I check it and cross check it. It's the perception that because it doesn't come from the disc it must be wrong is the broken premise.

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Hardly a threat as you don't contribute accurate data. As said above, give me 20 minutes of PMs and I could convert you. However, if you want to be Kiwi    about it, keep your data local and enjoy the use of the program, and the contribution work of others.

Rich

BTW Kiwi is a reference to a New Zealander, not Australian. Its like calling a Canadian an American.

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You have to realise that most internet databases use the same source which is IMDB. If you read the smallprint on these sites you will realise that is so. So in essence you are cross-checking the same data.
The only 100% accurate data will be from the disc itself.

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There is a desire to have accurate data in it. If you want crap data there are many other programmes or sites you can use.

There is no desire of accurate data in dvdprofiler. We have just here people who desire to follow blindly rules which are very poorly designed. We obtain "per the rules" data, but certainly not "accurate" (as in "normal life") data. Fortunately, the program allows to forget online crap and use correct data locally.

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Brilliant answer

Really brilliant    

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There is a desire to have accurate data in it. If you want crap data there are many other programmes or sites you can use.

There is no desire of accurate data in dvdprofiler. We have just here people who desire to follow blindly rules which are very poorly designed. We obtain "per the rules" data, but certainly not "accurate" (as in "normal life") data. Fortunately, the program allows to forget online crap and use correct data locally.

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Brilliant answer

Really brilliant    

More to the point Profiler's idea of accuracy is not surfeur's idea of accuracy, and his is not based on real data but only in his head.

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So my suggestion to people is stop trying to judge other users, you aren't qualified, any more than I am qualified to judge YOU and I try very hard not to. Judge not lest YE be judged and people who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

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So to summarize:-

-It's a database, but there seems to be a desire not to have any data in it. Rejecting submitted data for a triviality seems against the idea of a user contributing database.
-Copying from the IMDB is bad, but copying from the actual movie is okay (Transcribing from the movie is just as bad as taking the data from IMDB. The credits are part of the movie and the whole movie is protected under copyright. Taking the data from the credits or from IMDB doesn't seem to be any different).
-How can any other database assert copyright on the actual credit data that's owned by the movie company? IMDB can assert copyright on the data structure and layout/presentation, but not the actual data itself.
-Whats to stop anybody copying the data from IMDB and then saying they got it from the disc?
-Surely cross checking the data against different data sources negates the implied copyright on a single data source.
-Seeing that R2 Blu-ray contributors is low, why have such a negative attitude towards those contributors. I'd rather see Data in the DB than none at all. I'm not advocating a free for all, however only serious people are going to make contributions so they are more than likely going to provide correct data.
-Having DATA in a DATABASE that can be fixed at a later date as an evolving project, is far better than having NO data at all.

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Well you've lost me as a contributor.

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The insane desire to have every single T crossed and i dotted takes away from any fun you could have contributing to the cause.

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There is a desire to have accurate data in it. If you want crap data there are many other programmes or sites you can use.

There is no desire of accurate data in dvdprofiler. We have just here people who desire to follow blindly rules which are very poorly designed. We obtain "per the rules" data, but certainly not "accurate" (as in "normal life") data. Fortunately, the program allows to forget online crap and use correct data locally.

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Brilliant answer

Really brilliant    

More to the point Profiler's idea of accuracy is not surfeur's idea of accuracy, and his is not based on real data but only in his head.

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You contributed one or more R2 Blu-ray profiles which were rejected because you didn't follow the rules.  You posted here to complain about being rejected.  People provided you with answers why your contributions may have been rejected and suggestions for how to get future contributions accepted.

Your response to these suggestions is to dismiss all of them out of hand and pontificate about how no one is interested in good data.  Maybe you'd rather see bad data in the database than none at all, but most of us don't share that opinion.  What's wrong with trying to submit GOOD data in the first place?  As a single user you are not entitled to have the online database meet YOUR standards of accuracy or usability.