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French Name Parsing
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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I don't want to speak for T!M, but I don't believe it was cultural disappointment.  His disappointment is with the lack of direction and the fact that these names will not link.  While the CLT ignores parsing, the program doesn't.  If I have a film with 'Susan/ /Saint James' and a film with 'Susan/Saint/James', double clicking on one will not give me the film with the other.  If the program would use the display name, like the CLT does, this whole parsing argument would be rendered moot.

You're absolutely correct! This is - at least for me - not about culture. My one and only problem is that we have separate, non-linking entries for Susan//Saint James and Susan/Saint/James - and the same problem applies to virtually EVERY name in our database that consists of more than two words. That's my disappointment, indeed.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTaro
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Forum Moderator: No nudity please

Finally some nudity in this thread. It's about time! 

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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't want to speak for T!M, but I don't believe it was cultural disappointment.  His disappointment is with the lack of direction and the fact that these names will not link.  While the CLT ignores parsing, the program doesn't.  If I have a film with 'Susan/ /Saint James' and a film with 'Susan/Saint/James', double clicking on one will not give me the film with the other.  If the program would use the display name, like the CLT does, this whole parsing argument would be rendered moot.

You're absolutely correct! This is - at least for me - not about culture. My one and only problem is that we have separate, non-linking entries for Susan//Saint James and Susan/Saint/James - and the same problem applies to virtually EVERY name in our database that consists of more than two words. That's my disappointment, indeed.

That's just the thing. If all names would be entered in a 'culturally correct way', then linking would be virtually perfect. Since studios end credits are about as consistent as my grandma's nitting work (not at all), we have a 'broken' linking system.

I understand why people want to keep cultural issues out of the scope of DVDP, but on the other hand I think it's the only way to solve the linking issues, aside from arbitrary choosing one common name (even CLT is quite arbitrary in that regard since it only takes into consideration the profiles that are in the online database, which in many cases is not representative of all credits available worldwide).

Also, since the 'first' field means first name and 'last' field means last name, and the 'middle' field means middle name, we are already introducing cultural concepts into DVDP, namely western naming conventions. The only way to completely get rid of cultural notions would be to merge everything into one field 'name' ... but I personally don't prefer that option.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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I don't want to speak for T!M, but I don't believe it was cultural disappointment.  His disappointment is with the lack of direction and the fact that these names will not link.  While the CLT ignores parsing, the program doesn't.  If I have a film with 'Susan/ /Saint James' and a film with 'Susan/Saint/James', double clicking on one will not give me the film with the other.  If the program would use the display name, like the CLT does, this whole parsing argument would be rendered moot.

You're absolutely correct! This is - at least for me - not about culture. My one and only problem is that we have separate, non-linking entries for Susan//Saint James and Susan/Saint/James - and the same problem applies to virtually EVERY name in our database that consists of more than two words. That's my disappointment, indeed.


Exactly.  The linking in Profiler is far too weak and often nonsensical to work properly.

And I agree, there is insufficient nudity in this thread to keep me awake.
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