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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
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I want Gong Li in my list of actors in the profile of the movies where she is, in accordance to asian way to show names. And I want to have Gong, Li in my sorted list of actors by surname, since Gong is her surname. The program cannot do that now. It is not a problem of online, I paid for a program to manage my collection of DVDs, and I put a request in the request forum. No more. If you don't like it, it's up to you, it's Ken's opinion that interests me. We all payed for the program. Quote:
my sorted list of actors by surname, since Gong is her surname. Where is your sorted list of actors? Whenever you input a cast or crew member, In what ever order, the program will show up this member, either by Gong or by Li. If you want Ken exclusively to do program work for you, you should perhaps negotiate a contract. As it stands now you ask a lot, DB change, user practice, Treating Asian Westernised Names diiferently then other Western names. And as you say for the moment it is a request. As you made this request in a public forum, it is open for discussion by the other forum users: like it or not. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
But it could be done with three name fields just the same. Yes, of course, except that nobody explained what is the real interest to have a middle name. But if Ken decides that three names and a check box is OK, that would still be far better than now. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 3,830 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Yes, of course, except that nobody explained what is the real interest to have a middle name. Could be that the database grew like this by time. Why do have some people, a first name, a middle name and a last name? Why do Asians want a (translated/Westernised) name treated differntly? Giga stays a first name and Wizard the last name. | | | | Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions. | | | | Last edited: by ? |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Giga Wizard: Quote:
Where is your sorted list of actors? The edit profile window, on the cast and crew tabs. Quote:
Treating Asian Westernised Names diiferently then other Western names. Asian westernised names would not be treated differently, however it would be nice if Asian names were treated the same as Western names! |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
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I must be dense. 
I don't see how going to two name fields solves this problem? 
Two names and a check box (to reverse sorting). Please have a look to my first post.
But it could be done with three name fields just the same. True, but as you've said yourself - the less fields we have the less arguments there'll be about what goes where. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | From my viewpoint, north Asian names are treated precisely the same as western names. is it ouur fault they do things backwards.  Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
True, but as you've said yourself - the less fields we have the less arguments there'll be about what goes where. Agree . Some examples taken among the online for movies I have: Reverend Thomas//Bermingham Reverend/Michael J./Thomas Reverend/John/Nicola Reverend William/J./Parham Frère Jean-Philippe// Revel The interest of two fields seems evident.. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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I must be dense.
I don't see how going to two name fields solves this problem?
Two names and a check box (to reverse sorting). Please have a look to my first post.
But it could be done with three name fields just the same.
True, but as you've said yourself - the less fields we have the less arguments there'll be about what goes where. I would wish that were true, but it;s not and there won't be. And you'll still be arguing about asian names. Compromises have been suggested and you are still arrguing, and refuse to even accept a compromise, you want it your way., you have absolutely convinced me of that. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why limit it? let's ADD two fields, add one fro prefixes and one for suffixes.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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Where is your sorted list of actors?
The edit profile window, on the cast and crew tabs.
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Treating Asian Westernised Names diiferently then other Western names.
Asian westernised names would not be treated differently, however it would be nice if Asian names were treated the same as Western names! IMO, you're complaint that the names in the cast name filter in the edit window are not listed in the proper order because of the surname issue is a non-issue. It's a substring filter so that when typing in Gong Li, the filter will return both Gong Li and Li Gong. When typing in Li Gong the filter will return both Li Gong and Gong Li. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
From my viewpoint, north Asian names are treated precisely the same as western names. is it ouur fault they do things backwards.
Skip Seeing how they came up with writing before we did, I'd say it's we who are doing it backwards. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | But they want to play in our swimming pool, as it were.  I have suggested before that this matter should be taken with the Asian actors that and you should explain the problem to them and request that they adjust theiur crediting so that their name will correctly treated. Don't forget north, I have said before that John Wayne were in an Asian film and he were listed as Wayne John, I would tell you to list him as Wayne John NOT John Wayne. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
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From my viewpoint, north Asian names are treated precisely the same as western names. is it ouur fault they do things backwards.
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Seeing how they came up with writing before we did, I'd say it's we who are doing it backwards. Where did you get that from? The first "written language" was discovered by a German archaeologist found at the tomb of King Scorpion the First in Abydos, near Luxor, in Egypt. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting skipnet50: Quote:
Compromises have been suggested and you are still arrguing, and refuse to even accept a compromise, you want it your way., you have absolutely convinced me of that.
Skip Apart from the fact that it's not your place to tell us to use any compromise, the "compromise" you suggested earlier would not only violate the rules but make a mockery of the CLT. Either that or all those with Asian actors in their profiles would no longer be allowed to contribute. Neither is acceptable to me. Quite simply, until we have an answer from Invelos this argument will continue ad infinitum. |
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| Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Where did you get that from? The first "written language" was discovered by a German archaeologist found at the tomb of King Scorpion the First in Abydos, near Luxor, in Egypt. Admittedly I am stretching it a bit, but (from Wiki): "There have recently been discoveries of tortoise-shell carvings dating back to c. 6000 BC, but whether or not the carvings are of sufficient complexity to qualify as writing is under debate. If it is deemed to be a written language, writing in China will predate Mesopotamian cuneiform, long acknowledged as the first appearance of writing, by some 2000 years." |
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