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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 525 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just becareful when checking, you don't mark any music dvd that hasn't got a uk rating logo. Some have the 'E' somewhere on the back cover and some don't. Same with some documentaries. | | | 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | please don't just use the cover scan to verify. The profile could be correct and the scan wrong. | | | | Stuart |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 525 |
| | Posted: | | | | How else is there? If the profile has say a French cover, its clearly wrong. Especially also if the overview etc are also in french. | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | You could also check the EAN against retailers records. eg I know Woolworths list the EANs for their DVDs.
Additionally, I think they should go through the contribution voting process prior to removal as a double check. That way owners of those profiles have a chance to verify the incorrect profile and also to prompt them to add the correct locality profile to their collection.
I've come across several correct profiles that just had a scan from the wrong locality and I wouldn't want this to be the only justification for deletion. | | | | Stuart | | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote:
please don't just use the cover scan to verify. The profile could be correct and the scan wrong. Exactly. I've just updated a title that have had wrong cover scans for more than two years (Australian instead of UK). You can't just go by the cover scan. That will remove many valid profiles | | | 
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dag Ove: Quote:
Several major studios release generic versions of their DVDs intended for markets too small to warrant their own releases. These are currently in the UK locality, mostly due to their English language covers. If the absence of ratings symbols is the only criteria used for deletion, then these profiles will be caught out as well.
I realise these are not UK releases and ideally shouldn't have UK locality, but they don't belong in any other locality either, not being intended for any single market. The profiles are valid and useful to many Profiler users so I recommend they be allowed to remain as UK profiles until Ken creates an 'Interational' locality.
See EAN 7-321917-594189 for an example. I bet it came from cd-wow.  I have several of these DVDs from Warner, all starting EAN 7-32917 (UK warner titles start 7-32190), and the only hint of the locality was the copyright warning at the end on most of them which was for India. So I started to move these to that locality. They are definitely not UK (no rating whatsoever). | | | | Stuart | | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 525 |
| | Posted: | | | | Submitting somewhere between 5,000 and 10,000 contributions is going to kill this project dead. No one is going to want to spend the 2 mins per profile doing that.
If it were me, I'd remove all the profiles with no images that where over a year past the release date and also ones where you can't read the upc (granted some don't have upc's as they were on the bottom or somewhere else), but loads are of such poor quality.
As for checking with woolies etc, great idea, but takes time. Especially if they don't have it. Do you then check bensons and streetsonline etc as well.
I must admit to wishing that the 2.x database never came across. That would have sorted R2 UK out pretty well.
Oh and Richie, I'm starting O. J had 188 bad profiles. | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | I agree that manually submitting all of those would probably kill the project, so perhaps Ken could do a batch contribution for all these with a simple note "Candidate for Deletion" or similar.
If there's no objection to the removal then it can be deleted.
I really do think that owners of the wrong profiles should be prompted somehow and this seems the best way. | | | | Stuart | | | | Last edited: by Gadgeteer |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 79 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DariusKyrak: Quote:
I believe that the correct word is "bugger". Well, I suggested to Ken that he submit them for voting rather than simply delete them, so that would do as a way of stopping it as long as people that own the profiles check their votes before they go boom. You're right that a generic 'other' locality would be a better solution though.
Just out of curiosity, what locality is that DVD? Voting would work for me. The DVD isn't intended for any single locality. Judging from the subtitles it's possible it's being sold in Iceland, Greece and the Middle East. Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote:
I bet it came from cd-wow.
I have several of these DVDs from Warner, all starting EAN 7-32917 (UK warner titles start 7-32190), and the only hint of the locality was the copyright warning at the end on most of them which was for India. So I started to move these to that locality. They are definitely not UK (no rating whatsoever). You're right. This one came from cd wow. I also have similar releases purchased in shops in the Middle East (Virgin, Carrefour and the like, not dodgy market stalls). Studios releasing this type of DVDs include Warner, Columbia TriStar and 20th Centry Fox. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Gadgeteer: Quote:
I agree that manually submitting all of those would probably kill the project, so perhaps Ken could do a batch contribution for all these with a simple note "Candidate for Deletion" or similar.
If there's no objection to the removal then it can be deleted.
I really do think that owners of the wrong profiles should be prompted somehow and this seems the best way. Fully agree Stuart | | |  |
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| | Posted: | | | | Update on which letters are in process, please advise when you pick another so we do not do the work twice  ~" etc rich 0-9 rich A stu b steve c d e stuart f g h i j ajm k ajm l m n rich o ajm p q rich r s t Stuart u Stuart v Rich w x stu y stu z stu | | | | | | | Last edited: by hayley taylor |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | I suppose utopia would be to flag all the titles within a specific letter that you have identified as being incorrect UK profiles, and mass contribute all of them together as "screeners delete from database".
I'm not an IT guru so not sure if this is even a reasonable idea, Ken can you comment? | | | |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 519 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'll make a start on E
Just to clarify, are we creating a database/backup with the invalid profiles to be sent to Ken. | | | | Stuart |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting richierich: Quote:
Update on which letters are in process, please advise when you pick another so we do not do the work twice
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Before I go and submit the 'B's' out of a start of 3120 profiles I currently have a list of 1238 dodgy profiles, some are clear (with foreign text as title or overview) some are dubious down to the EAN or some with US UPC's. How are we determining which EAN's should be UK locality? In a Google search I found this sitewhich gives a list of prefix numbers per locality...can we use these Y/N? Steve |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,022 |
| | Posted: | | | | personally i only have removed the ones with foreign titles/overviews or logos, so I guess the most obviously wrong | | | |
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