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There's a new King in town...
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Anyone here follow Tour de France (eh.. I mean "Tour de Doping")?!

Vivé la USA.....   

Do it the RIGHT way - or don't do it at all!!! 

The tour de farce? Naw, I never really followed bicycling. I'm even less inclined now that half the field is "juicing". I have to admit that I found it particularly gratifying when almost all of the dopers were put out of the race during that accident though.
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And just how many of your favorite footballers are juiced I wonder?

And your point is?  Because other athletes are juiced makes it all right for Barry Bonds?
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Barry Bonds might be a King in YOUR town, but fortunately I don't live in YOUR town - so I don't have to treat him with any respect he hasn't earned honestly/fairly.
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None, I don't watch football - nice stereotype though.


Who is stereotyping? football happens to be the most popular sport in the world. Not my fault you're a whimpy bookworm  .

Well, actually "American football" is not the most popular sport in the world. That honor belongs to what us Americans call Soccer. It just happens that the rest of the world calls "soccer," football.

Dan,

I wasn't referring to "American Football". I lived half of my life in Europe and I know what Football is. My son, who lives in Madrid, plays for El Rayo Vallecano's juvenil team.
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Anyone here follow Tour de France (eh.. I mean "Tour de Doping")?!

Vivé la USA.....   

Do it the RIGHT way - or don't do it at all!!! 

I think Le Tour got it spot on this year. As horrible as it looked to the general media, they really took a stand to stamp out the cheating.

While really hard on the innocent parties, I think requesting the whole teams of the found cheaters to leave the event was great. Knowing that your cheating if caught no only affects you, but all of your team has got to make you think long and hard. And it will also make teams far more careful about self-testing and monitoring.

Governing Bodies can never stamp it out by themselves as they are not close enough to the competitors to monitor them all the time - they need the teams and individuals to self monitor.
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And just how many of your favorite footballers are juiced I wonder?

And your point is?  Because other athletes are juiced makes it all right for Barry Bonds?
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A sure sign of someone realizing he's losing an argument is when he resorts to insults.

Barry Bonds might be a King in YOUR town, but fortunately I don't live in YOUR town - so I don't have to treat him with any respect he hasn't earned honestly/fairly.


Losing what argument? Did I present an argument at any time in this thread? Point out the post in this thread where I presented an argument.

I merely pointed out a fact that Barry Bonds broke the alltime homerun record last night.  The rest of you posted your insults.
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If pointing out that Bonds admitted to "juicing" and calling him a cheat are considered as insults, I can live with that.
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If pointing out that Bonds admitted to "juicing" and calling him a cheat are considered as insults, I can live with that.


The only thing Bonds ever admitted to was that his trainer instructed him to use a clear substance and cream, flaxseed oil and rubbing balm, which are banned by the league. Bonds said he was unaware the substances were steroids. All this came out in leaked Grand Jury testimony. He's never been convicted for lying in his Grand Jury testimony. People can think what they want of Barry but the fact remains

Barry Bonds is the New Homerun King!


      ...sorry...you guys are too easy.
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Ignorance is no defense. A cheat is a cheat.

What's worse is that you have to go on the thinking that this guy is such an idiot as to allow someone to inject him with this stuff and him not know what it is. Then you get the part of the testimony where he was injecting himself. Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.
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Ignorance is no defense. A cheat is a cheat.

What's worse is that you have to go on the thinking that this guy is such an idiot as to allow someone to inject him with this stuff and him not know what it is. Then you get the part of the testimony where he was injecting himself. Sounds like an admission of guilt to me.


What? . You'll have to point that part of his testimony out to me. I think you might be getting confused with Jason Giambi's Grand Jury testimony.
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If pointing out that Bonds admitted to "juicing" and calling him a cheat are considered as insults, I can live with that.


The only thing Bonds ever admitted to was that his trainer instructed him to use a clear substance and cream, flaxseed oil and rubbing balm, which are banned by the league.

      ...sorry...you guys are too easy.

Even you write it as an admission of guilt.

You're also neglecting the fact that this went on for 5 seasons.
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You're also neglecting the fact that this went on for 5 seasons.


The Grand Jury documents list Bonds' name from 2001 through 2003. How does that equate to 5 seasons?
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I agree with almost everyone here. The new record means nothing, at last for me, in other sport this guy will not be allowed to play anymore and he will certainly not be seen as a hero. Maybe a real comissioner is need very fast for the MLB, when the blacksox scandal happen all the player get a life suspension even if they were found not guilty by the law. Sometimes logic has to prevail, Bonds used steroids so what he continue to do in this league? Just bringing shame to it....
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I'd rather see this record being broken....

Picture it.... the bottom of the ninth inning... seventh game of the World Series.... two outs....

Here's the windup!! And the pitch!!

Ground ball to the second baseman... he throws to first!!! out!!!







Cubs Win!!!
The Cubs Win
the World Series!!!!


Now THAT'S worth celebrating.
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