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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote:
I thought the credit block on the back cover also plays in situations like this. If that includes the tagline, then the tagline is part of the title. Just like how we determine possessives. The US version has no tagline FWIW. The only place the Rules tell us to reference the credit block is for "possessives". Nowhere does it tell us to reference the spine. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | If I relied on "research" rather than what is on the cover, there would be no title in the database known as "There's Something More About Mary".
The word "more" is set off to the side of the actual "title" and it could easily be argued that it is not part of the "title" based on research which would show that the title EVERYPLACE else is "There's Something About Mary".
There are two fields in the database for a reason. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hal, in your opinion, what is the title of these then?   |
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| | Posted: | | | | Parker & The Prince | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Why Parker and The Prince, but not Iron Maze?
(unless I'm reading your opinion on Iron Maze wrong, in which case I apologise) | | | | Last edited: by samuelrichardscott |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | The first two are taglines. The other is a sub-title.....IMO. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | So what makes it a subtitle and not a tagline, when you consider the overall evidence of the title in the credit block, the film itself etc etc? |
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| | Posted: | | | | Tagline:
"In entertainment, a tagline is a small amount of text which serves to clarify a thought for, or designed with a form of, dramatic effect."
Subtitle:
"Subtitle (titling), an explanatory or alternate title of a book, play, film, musical work, etc., in addition to its main title" | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | It's kinda like pornography. I know it, when I see it. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 762 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
It's all or nothing, indeed. If it's 'Iron Maze: A Labyrinth of Deception', then it's 'Parker: Payback Has a New Name' and 'The Prince: Mercy Is for the Weak' in samuelrichardscott's examples as well. And many, many others. I shudder to think about it...
Suffice to say that to me, these are all taglines, and therefore not part of the title. I fully agree. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 824 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
It's kinda like pornography. I know it, when I see it. "Because I said so." in other words. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Tagline:
or designed with a form of, dramatic effect."
So exactly what "A labyrinth of deception" is then? I hope you're less confused about porn.  | | | | Last edited: by samuelrichardscott |
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| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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It's kinda like pornography. I know it, when I see it.
"Because I said so." in other words. I don't need you to put words in my mouth or twist the words that I wrote. I wrote exactly what I meant. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting samuelrichardscott: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Tagline:
or designed with a form of, dramatic effect."
So exactly what "A labyrinth of deception" is then? I hope you're less confused about porn. Look, I read it as a subtitle, you read it as a tagline. Let's just agree to the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
It's all or nothing, indeed. And I disagree. Some of us are capable of making subtle distinctions. | | | | Hal |
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| Registered: September 18, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,650 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
the fact that there is no definitive answer available to us. Apart from the credit block, the film itself, promotional material, etc etc. |
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