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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Devion,
many Colleges have (or at least "had") special license offers by Microsoft. Those basically run down to giving the license away for free (or only a very small amount) for the most common parts (Word, Excel, Powerpoint).
Check at your student's office for such license types.
If M$-Office isn't explicitly requested by your college, the use of the freeware-alternatives (as mentioned above) is strongly recommended. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,878 |
| | Posted: | | | | Our regional manager brought us a new computer at work after the last one crashed, but it's without Office. But we downloaded Open Office and it works almost just as well.
The only thing have found that Open Office won't do that Microsoft Word will is make use of the Avery Wizard. But unless you need the Avery Wizard label maker, Open Office is great! If you're just going to be typing papers, like I did in college, you could totally use it. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,272 |
| | Posted: | | | | Also VBA has very limited support in OpenOffice, not that this matters to most people but as I use VBA extensively in Excel I couldn't really use OpenOffice.
Luckily my employer has a deal with Microsoft that enables to get office very cheaply. The entire office 2010 suite was just $11, and we can upgrade to 2013 for just another $11. This is download only, but still a fantastic deal. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,819 |
| | Posted: | | | | Similarly to DDA, my sister's company allowed her to get a download for £9 or a physical copy for £11. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Actually, I think I already made my point so, nevermind. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Is this any good to you? HereLooks like you get MS Office for four years (I presume that would cover your college years). Also Academic SuperstoreAnd FWIW, for students in the UK, we've used this company for the Misses Mole Software4Students | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | Everyone here has made good points. However, I think everyone is overlooking one thing. While MS is licensing the software for up to 3 PC's they are only licensing for 1 user. If you don't believe me install the software and read the end user agreement that you accepted when you installed your software. Giving away a license is a form of piracy. I know I just pissed a lot of you off but it is true. I am a huge proponent of intellectual property even when it belongs to the big evil faceless corporation known as Microsoft. Ken wouldn't be happy if people were giving Profiler away for free either. As for you Mad, I see where you are coming from but disagree. You wouldn't want your hard work to go unnoticed/unpaid and neither would I. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote:
Everyone here has made good points. However, I think everyone is overlooking one thing. While MS is licensing the software for up to 3 PC's they are only licensing for 1 user. If you don't believe me install the software and read the end user agreement that you accepted when you installed your software. Giving away a license is a form of piracy. I know I just pissed a lot of you off but it is true. I am a huge proponent of intellectual property even when it belongs to the big evil faceless corporation known as Microsoft. Ken wouldn't be happy if people were giving Profiler away for free either. As for you Mad, I see where you are coming from but disagree. You wouldn't want your hard work to go unnoticed/unpaid and neither would I. I think you need to re-read the posts before making accusations of piracy against "everyone". | | | | Chris | | | | Last edited: by Mole |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
Quoting Lord Of The Sith:
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Everyone here has made good points. However, I think everyone is overlooking one thing. While MS is licensing the software for up to 3 PC's they are only licensing for 1 user. If you don't believe me install the software and read the end user agreement that you accepted when you installed your software. Giving away a license is a form of piracy. [...]
I think you need to re-read the posts before making accusations of piracy against "everyone". Especially since most courts are declaring exactly this passages as illegal. Of course you are allowed to trade a license you bought. Provided, of course, that you did completely remove the licensed software from all your machines. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote:
If you don't believe me install the software and read the end user agreement that you accepted when you installed your software. What they put in their end user agreement and what is legally enforceable are not always the same thing. Enforcement can, and often does, vary by location. Quote:
Giving away a license is a form of piracy. I know I just pissed a lot of you off but it is true. You haven't pissed me off as what you say may, or may not actually be true depending on several factors and where one lives. Quote:
I am a huge proponent of intellectual property even when it belongs to the big evil faceless corporation known as Microsoft. Ken wouldn't be happy if people were giving Profiler away for free either. If I buy a DVD, watch it, then decide I don't want to keep it, can I give it away? Of course I can. I can do it with a car, book, CD, piece of art, insert any item I can purchase here. Why would/should software be any different? It shouldn't and that is why the laws vary by location. Quote:
As for you Mad, I see where you are coming from but disagree. You wouldn't want your hard work to go unnoticed/unpaid and neither would I. Ah, but there is the rub...it isn't unpaid. Hypothetically speaking, if I buy a 3 user license, give it to my daughter and her two roommates at college, Microsoft still got paid right? In fact, they would end up making more as the 3 user license costs more and the two roommates would probably end up using my daughters computer instead of purchasing their own copies. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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If you don't believe me install the software and read the end user agreement that you accepted when you installed your software.
What they put in their end user agreement and what is legally enforceable are not always the same thing. Enforcement can, and often does, vary by location.
He lives in the United States by his icon therefore he is under US Copyright. Under US copyright if he is given someone else code they and he have violated the end user agreement and US copyright.
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Giving away a license is a form of piracy. I know I just pissed a lot of you off but it is true.
You haven't pissed me off as what you say may, or may not actually be true depending on several factors and where one lives.
Actually, that comment was not pointed toward you as you are normally more reasonable than that.
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I am a huge proponent of intellectual property even when it belongs to the big evil faceless corporation known as Microsoft. Ken wouldn't be happy if people were giving Profiler away for free either.
If I buy a DVD, watch it, then decide I don't want to keep it, can I give it away? Of course I can. I can do it with a car, book, CD, piece of art, insert any item I can purchase here. Why would/should software be any different? It shouldn't and that is why the laws vary by location.
You are 100% correct and at that point you no longer have the physical item. I am sure if you were to give your code away and uninstall the software from your computer and the other computer you installed it on no one would give shoots.
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As for you Mad, I see where you are coming from but disagree. You wouldn't want your hard work to go unnoticed/unpaid and neither would I.
Ah, but there is the rub...it isn't unpaid. Hypothetically speaking, if I buy a 3 user license, give it to my daughter and her two roommates at college, Microsoft still got paid right? In fact, they would end up making more as the 3 user license costs more and the two roommates would probably end up using my daughters computer instead of purchasing their own copies. If your daughter lets them use her paid copy it is still a paid copy. However if she went to college and gave her license to her roommates and they installed MS to their computers while she had right to the software they did not as they are three users not one. Most companies selling a single user license with multiple installs are doing it to convenience the single user. I bought office with three instances as I have my computer/server, my laptop and my wife's laptop. We live in the same home and technically are still a single user. If I were to give my license to my mother however that would be two users as she doesn't live with me. Since she is your daughter and it is assumed she lives with you other then when she is at college and is your dependent then she is still a single user. | | | | Last edited: by Lord Of The Sith |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,217 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote:
If you don't believe me install the software and read the end user agreement that you accepted when you installed your software. When I buy a software those "after the fact"-EUA are absolutely(!) worthless under german law. cya, Mithi | | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks DVD Profiler users who like to play software police. Nice to have you around.  | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
Thanks DVD Profiler users who like to play software police. Nice to have you around. It is theft plain and simple. I could care less if everyone on here decided to hate me and never speak to me again. I own my own intellectual property and would be pissed if I found out it was being given away. I am sorry so many people on here think just because they want something they can have it without expense. Every person on here would be pissed if someone came to their home and took any portion of their DVD collection. This is NO different. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 756 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lord Of The Sith: Quote:
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Thanks DVD Profiler users who like to play software police. Nice to have you around.
It is theft plain and simple. I could care less if everyone on here decided to hate me and never speak to me again. I own my own intellectual property and would be pissed if I found out it was being given away. I am sorry so many people on here think just because they want something they can have it without expense. Every person on here would be pissed if someone came to their home and took any portion of their DVD collection. This is NO different. Have you actually read the postings here? The majority are trying to find legal solutions to help out, by offering suggestions such as the free Open Office, or taking advantage of the opportunities for Academic licensing offered BY MICROSOFT, and obtainable with the cooperation of schools &colleges. I look forward to your apology and a retraction of your accusation that we are all advocating piracy. | | | | Chris |
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| Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Mole: Quote:
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Thanks DVD Profiler users who like to play software police. Nice to have you around.
It is theft plain and simple. I could care less if everyone on here decided to hate me and never speak to me again. I own my own intellectual property and would be pissed if I found out it was being given away. I am sorry so many people on here think just because they want something they can have it without expense. Every person on here would be pissed if someone came to their home and took any portion of their DVD collection. This is NO different.
Have you actually read the postings here? The majority are trying to find legal solutions to help out, by offering suggestions such as the free Open Office, or taking advantage of the opportunities for Academic licensing offered BY MICROSOFT, and obtainable with the cooperation of schools &colleges.
I look forward to your apology and a retraction of your accusation that we are all advocating piracy. Well, you aren't getting one. My last post was specifically directed to Grendell. That is why I quoted him. He is also not the only person who advocated piracy. YOU, are the one who needs to reread this thread. There are at least 4 people who were advocating giving away licenses or ignoring EUA's in a less than 3 page thread. | | | | Last edited: by Lord Of The Sith |
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