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There's no chance two different DiscIDs can bring up the same disc.

Same in what way? Identical content?

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But there's a small chance that two different discs can result in the same DiscID.

In all my 'net searches, I've still not found a good explanation for how these are derived. I've only found references to M$ functions that retrieve the DiscID / label of a disc in the drive.

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And by the way: how would I know which of your fake-upc's I had to use for my release.


The best question asked so far.

This is where the collaboration would have to come in, and it would be just like all the other stuff with name credits, known birth dates, actor profile images.

You'd arrive at a consensus with any other group of people that cared and that wanted to de-conflict the multi-use UPC codes out there. Of the 11 unique numbers available for a title, I don't know how many, in those instances, you'd have to retain for anamorphic, letterbox, P&S, etc, versus the default number for additional copies.

What's the max copies of an identical title that anyone has here anyways?
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What difference does it make whether the UPC in your local database "looks" legitimate or not?

I like seeing standard width columns, which you don't get with something like DiscIDs that are much larger than UPC codes

I don't recall discussing DiscIDs with you.  Manual profile numbers are going to be shorter than UPC numbers, but if you have some hangup about that I guess my idea won't satisfy you.  Sorry.

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One of the nice things about Profiler is that all of us get to use it however we want locally. This is another way of using it locally to suit my preferences / needs.

And since it seems to be suiting your needs I'm at a loss to understand why you began this thread.

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I know you didn't think of it first, but why should you be so threatened by it?

You asked yesterday "what's wrong with this picture?"  I told you what I thought was wrong.  It's too complicated.  Do I care if you do things that way in your local database?  YES!  PLEASE STOP!!  IT'S DRIVING ME CRAZY!!!!!







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Having the UPCs sort together is one advantage.

What, exacly, is the advantage of having UPCs sort together?  I honestly can't imagine a reason to sort by UPC.  Maybe I am just missing it here.
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Being able to exchange information based on a transportable (with some effort) number is another.

I don't see an advantage here either.  As I understand it, these are just additional copies of a single profile.  Since I can update the primary, UPC/Disc ID based profile from the on-line, then copy and past that information into the duplicate profiles, why would I need to exchange information for them? 
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As I understand it, these are just additional copies of a single profile.  Since I can update the primary, UPC/Disc ID based profile from the on-line, then copy and past that information into the duplicate profiles, why would I need to exchange information for them? 

Additional copies is the first scenario.

The second is where multiple versions of the same title share a UPC. By giving each its own version of the root UPC you create the possibility of assigning unique information to each.

If two people agreed upon the scheme of which UPC went with which updated release, then you create export / import possibilities from one user to the next. You don't get that easily with manual profile numbers, as the manual profiles, even for the same discs, are different for each users local database.

Right now I don't think there is a way to easily address the multiple versions per UPC issue. I've never done the copy / past activity between profiles. If it has to be done one item of info at a time, it seems like that would be a pretty tedious process.

The current update via UPC system just goes BANG and updates everything at once based on a precise match to a UPC. This is an extension of that idea.
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I've never done the copy / past activity between profiles. If it has to be done one item of info at a time, it seems like that would be a pretty tedious process.

It's very easy to find out.

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Copy /paste don't have to be done one at a time. All you have to do is flag all your extra copies and copy the original then click flagged-->paste... and it is done all at once.
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Copy /paste don't have to be done one at a time. All you have to do is flag all your extra copies and copy the original then click flagged-->paste... and it is done all at once.

Thanks for the tip.
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What is the "Add by M" trick?

When I type "M" in the UPC field (add dvds to owned), Profiler immediately flips me to the title field, and "M" hits various titles, so that doesn't work.

Exactly what menu sequence do you go thru to get to the point where you can create a blank "M" profile with Profiler creates a unique number for so you can then copy / paste from another profile?
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First download the profile by title or UPC... once it is in your collection list go to it and go to DVD-->Change UPC... that is where you type in M and it will automatically change it to the next available manual profile number.
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Exactly what menu sequence do you go thru to get to the point where you can create a blank "M" profile with Profiler creates a unique number for so you can then copy / paste from another profile?

In the Add DVDs dialog box, select the "By Title" tab and uncheck the "Download profile from Invelos" checkbox in the bottom left of the dialog box.  After you uncheck this box, you must enter a title for this profile, and then you can add it to your collection.  It will be a blank profile except for the title and the automatically created "manual upc".

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3.8 makes this even easier. You can download any profile you like and later set UPC as Manual.
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Kulji: Thanks, that worked.
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