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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
How does the credit block on the jacket display the title? How about the film credits?
If they don't have punctuation i would not use it.
And if you go without punctuation i'd lower case the word "The". From the rules: "For English titles do not capitalize joining words such as "of", "the", "a", "in", etc. unless they are the first, last or only word of the title." Sorry it took me a while to respond. The front cover is all caps with ORCA spread out across the entire cover; THE KILLER WHALE is on a 2nd line under it and about 10 times smaller, no punctuation. The overview on the back cover has it in upper and lowercase with initial caps; Orca: The Killer Whale. However the opening credits of the movie just use the word ORCA, all caps. Since the rules don't cover either of these questions definitively, I think I'll leave them as is for now. The opening of the film and another source just use ORCA and makes me think we should drop The Killer Whale part. | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Then in any case the Original Title should be "Orca". |
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting mreeder50: Quote:
I am reauditing Other People's Money. The profile lists a Production Sound Mixer, 2 Supervising Sound Editors, 3 Sound Re-Recording Mixers and then 2 more Production Sound Mixers. The film credit for the last 2 Production Sound Mixers reads:
Production Sound ... Don Coufal
Gary Holland
The question is, should these last 2 be listed at all? Don Coufal was the boom operator and Gary Holland the cable man. So they were part of the "production sound" team, but only Gary Wexler was the true production soud mixer. |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Edited: I need to read a little more carefully or else my lasic surgery needs updating.  | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I have said many times before... things like this is the reason I don't bother with doing crew credits. The only thing you should have to know when contributing is what the credits say. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Don Coufal and Gary Holland are listed as Production Sound Mixers and I believe that most contributors would not think twice about contributing them as such. I thought the OP said they were credited as "Production Sound", not "Production Sound Mixer" - but I can see where the confusion is coming from. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have removed the 2 sound credits and contributed. | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. | | | | Last edited: by mreeder50 |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
Quoting Kathy:
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Don Coufal and Gary Holland are listed as Production Sound Mixers and I believe that most contributors would not think twice about contributing them as such.
I thought the OP said they were credited as "Production Sound", not "Production Sound Mixer" - but I can see where the confusion is coming from. I did read that wrong, thank you for the clarification. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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In Germany they would have to change, at a rough estimate, thousands of Titles.
And your point is what? You are cordially invited. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
I'm not trying to be antagonistic, and if it came across that way, please accept my apologies!  No worries. Quote:
I have never claimed there is a RULE telling us to deal with titles such as this one in a particular way, however I WILL claim this is a standing practice which has been maintained over the years. The rules can't cover everything. I know it is a standing practice, by many users, but I don't offer those as options if they aren't allowed by the rules. Others are, of course, free to do so, I will just question it when it comes up is all. Quote:
As far as Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves goes: that was a stand-alone title; nothing episodic about it. The only thing remotely "episodic" about it is that two years later a parody was made, which is called "Robin Hood: Men in Tights". But the creators of that parody had nothing to do with the creators of its object of parody.
I can't see any difference with regard to the issue at hand between "Orca: The Killer Whale" and "Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves" (or "2001: A Space Odyssey", for that matter). If you don't agree, please explain why these should be treated differently. As I said, I was unsure as to the Robin Hood example, but if it is a sub-title like Orca and 2001, then I don't think the rules allow for the colon. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote:
You are cordially invited. Invited to do what...make changes to profiles outside my region? Sorry, but that isn't my thing. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Martian;
Sometimes I don't understand you. The use of the colon is a long standing convention that dates to the earliest days of the program, just as the use of the hyphen is a similar convention in Europe. It wasn't felt necessary go codify such a convention, until you make a comment which basically do what you want, convention out the door. Are we now going to start seeing user manipulation be
Cause of your remark. I hope not. Not upset just confused. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Corne | | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
| Registered: April 5, 2007 | | Posts: 1,059 |
| | Posted: | | | | FYI The use of the hyphen isn't a convention in Europe. It's a convention in Germany (and France?). In The Netherlands a colon is the convention and I believe in the UK as well. | | | | Cor |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the heads up corne | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote:
Martian;
Sometimes I don't understand you. The use of the colon is a long standing convention that dates to the earliest days of the program, just as the use of the hyphen is a similar convention in Europe. It wasn't felt necessary go codify such a convention, until you make a comment which basically do what you want, convention out the door. Are we now going to start seeing user manipulation be
Cause of your remark. I hope not. Not upset just confused. As I said, it may be a long standing convention, but it isn't mentioned in the rules anywhere. The only place the rules mention a colon is for episode descriptors and music and stage performance DVDs. Convention or not, I am not going to pretend that the rules allow for it. I don't know why it wasn't included in the rules, but we constantly tell users that they have to follow the rules...how can they follow something that isn't there? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well, I tried to explain why, it was not an oversight. One can simply by reviewing the database that it is the way it is done, this has been true from the earliest days of the prog. Why open it to user manipulation, that is what is not wanted. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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