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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Fingerlakes Dave: Quote: OK. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my initial post.
(Hellboy at WalMart, new UPC) It is a Blu-ray + DVD Combo Pack . "Standard" slip cover. There is a CUT OUT for the UPC. The UPC is the UPC of the actual Blu-ray package. UPC was NOT in the database until submitted.
Quote: Is the Vudu ad printed on the slip or just a sticker? No sticker. printed as part of the slip cover.
Quote: What happens if you put in the UPC from the cover under the slip? Did the original have a different slip? If this UPC (from the keep cover) doesn't show then it should be used. See above
Quote: I'm thinking these slips are a form of re-issue and should be ignored, but may be wrong as I can't recall for sure. I don't know if they qualify as a new exclusive version, esp as the disc ID will probably match the old Hellboy BD profile. If all they have new is a slip and an offer for Vudu, they are just a promotion and not an exclusive new version of the disc. No combo pack exists before this that I can find information on. Totally new UPC, with same releases: Hellboy - Directors Cur, Blu-ray and DVD, and the $5 Vudu offer. I understand the submission rules. Do the rules address a situation like this, where the slipcover has an 'expiration date"? When the Vudu offer expires, WalMart (or any retailer), removes the slipcover and sells the Blu-ray+DVD package as itself. If you happen to find an expired offer in the package, Oh Well!.
Or is this one of those times when the rules trump common sense? With this info I can say pretty much certainly this would be classified as a re-issue, and the slip should be ignored. You can scan it and keep it local, but it shouldn't replace the first versions without the VuDu offer and slip. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote: Quoting Fingerlakes Dave:
Quote: OK. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my initial post.
(Hellboy at WalMart, new UPC) It is a Blu-ray + DVD Combo Pack . "Standard" slip cover. There is a CUT OUT for the UPC. The UPC is the UPC of the actual Blu-ray package. UPC was NOT in the database until submitted.
Quote: Is the Vudu ad printed on the slip or just a sticker? No sticker. printed as part of the slip cover.
Quote: What happens if you put in the UPC from the cover under the slip? Did the original have a different slip? If this UPC (from the keep cover) doesn't show then it should be used. See above
Quote: I'm thinking these slips are a form of re-issue and should be ignored, but may be wrong as I can't recall for sure. I don't know if they qualify as a new exclusive version, esp as the disc ID will probably match the old Hellboy BD profile. If all they have new is a slip and an offer for Vudu, they are just a promotion and not an exclusive new version of the disc. No combo pack exists before this that I can find information on. Totally new UPC, with same releases: Hellboy - Directors Cur, Blu-ray and DVD, and the $5 Vudu offer. I understand the submission rules. Do the rules address a situation like this, where the slipcover has an 'expiration date"? When the Vudu offer expires, WalMart (or any retailer), removes the slipcover and sells the Blu-ray+DVD package as itself. If you happen to find an expired offer in the package, Oh Well!.
Or is this one of those times when the rules trump common sense?
With this info I can say pretty much certainly this would be classified as a re-issue, and the slip should be ignored. You can scan it and keep it local, but it shouldn't replace the first versions without the VuDu offer and slip. But the OP stated that the UPC was NOT in the invelos database until he submitted it. Therefore, how can it be a re-issue? Quote: Quoting Fingerlakes Dave: OK. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my initial post.
(Hellboy at WalMart, new UPC) It is a Blu-ray + DVD Combo Pack . "Standard" slip cover. There is a CUT OUT for the UPC. The UPC is the UPC of the actual Blu-ray package. UPC was NOT in the database until submitted. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Quote: First check if the Slip Cover is a Wendecover. Those either don't exist in the US or are called something else. They call it flip cover when they want to sound cosmopolitan. But TheMadMartian may be right, a Slip Flip Cover is not very likely, not even in Germany. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbb: Quote: a Slip Flip Cover is not very likely, not even in Germany. How would it even be technically possible |
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Registered: April 6, 2007 | Posts: 465 |
| Posted: | | | | Quote: Quoting Bad Father:
But the OP stated that the UPC was NOT in the invelos database until he submitted it. Therefore, how can it be a re-issue? Bold emphasis mine. Quote: Quoting Fingerlakes Dave: OK. Maybe I wasn't clear enough in my initial post.
(Hellboy at WalMart, new UPC) It is a Blu-ray + DVD Combo Pack . "Standard" slip cover. There is a CUT OUT for the UPC. The UPC is the UPC of the actual Blu-ray package. UPC was NOT in the database until submitted. Finally! Someone who gets it! |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | I completely mis-read something somewhere, sorry. Anything I've said so far is wrong, if the upc isn't in the database then it should be submitted. That also makes the slip-cover the first issue (most likely, maybe try googling upc# and see if anything else even shows up), so it should be scanned. |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Posts: 824 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
So much for keeping up with the contribution rules
So much for keeping up with common sense | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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Registered: March 16, 2007 | Posts: 278 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Fingerlakes Dave: Quote:
Do I use the slip cover, with the ad on it, or go with the standard packaging inside. Inside titles as Blu-Ray + DVD Combo Pack. I can see the slip cover being just for a promotion by WalMart.
There's a rule that addresses this: The inner sleeve may be used in lieu of the front cover as long as the only difference is the exclusion of sticker(s) or rating overlays. http://dvdprofiler.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=coverimages |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Leiterfluid: Quote: Quoting Fingerlakes Dave:
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Do I use the slip cover, with the ad on it, or go with the standard packaging inside. Inside titles as Blu-Ray + DVD Combo Pack. I can see the slip cover being just for a promotion by WalMart.
There's a rule that addresses this: The inner sleeve may be used in lieu of the front cover as long as the only difference is the exclusion of sticker(s) or rating overlays.
http://dvdprofiler.com/dvdpro/contributions/Rules.aspx?display=coverimages That portion of the rule, I believe, was specifically addressing the Wendecover issue. Besides, the slip cover in this instance has no sticker. The "Ad" is actually printed on the cover. Besides, it's "First come, first served". If the OP's is the first and only contribution for this particular UPC, he's well within the rules to submit it with the slip cover that came with his purchase. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection | | | Last edited: by Bad Father |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
Quote: a Slip Flip Cover is not very likely, not even in Germany. How would it even be technically possible Good question. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: May 14, 2007 | Posts: 455 |
| Posted: | | | | another reason I have always thought of slip covers as "packaging" NOT covers. I refuse to allow slip covers in my database.
I have never agreed with, nor with I ever agree with, the rule of slip covers over the "real" covers. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting leo1963: Quote: another reason I have always thought of slip covers as "packaging" NOT covers. I refuse to allow slip covers in my database.
I have never agreed with, nor with I ever agree with, the rule of slip covers over the "real" covers. Many releases come with collectible slip covers. Are you saying that you don't allow those in your collection? Slip Covers to me are like jackets for books. They help protect the DVD/Blu-ray, look good on the shelf and some have very cool artwork. | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting leo1963: Quote: another reason I have always thought of slip covers as "packaging" NOT covers. I refuse to allow slip covers in my database.
I have never agreed with, nor with I ever agree with, the rule of slip covers over the "real" covers. I have seen a good handful of times where the slip cover is made of a clear plastic with half the main artwork on the slip cover and the other half of the artwork is on the inside cover. I have also seen times where the slip cover (normal cardboard) has strategic holes cut out to allow the image of the inside artwork to show through the holes to give a (different) complete image on the slip cover. Guess you don't agree with scanning the slip covers then either... even though you won't get the complete cover image? | | | Pete |
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Registered: May 14, 2007 | Posts: 455 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Bad Father: Quote: Quoting leo1963:
Quote: another reason I have always thought of slip covers as "packaging" NOT covers. I refuse to allow slip covers in my database.
I have never agreed with, nor with I ever agree with, the rule of slip covers over the "real" covers.
Many releases come with collectible slip covers. Are you saying that you don't allow those in your collection? Slip Covers to me are like jackets for books. They help protect the DVD/Blu-ray, look good on the shelf and some have very cool artwork. That is correct. NO slip covers in my database. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 4,596 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting leo1963: Quote: Quoting Bad Father:
Quote: Quoting leo1963:
Quote: another reason I have always thought of slip covers as "packaging" NOT covers. I refuse to allow slip covers in my database.
I have never agreed with, nor with I ever agree with, the rule of slip covers over the "real" covers.
Many releases come with collectible slip covers. Are you saying that you don't allow those in your collection? Slip Covers to me are like jackets for books. They help protect the DVD/Blu-ray, look good on the shelf and some have very cool artwork.
That is correct. NO slip covers in my database. okely dokely | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,463 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Bad Father: Quote: I just "inherited" a few DVDs from my recently deceased father ... Sorry for your loss. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
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