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Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,550 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: I think my stars are because of my cute baby panda. So I guess I should change mine to a kitten? |
| Registered: March 24, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,044 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote: Quoting Kathy:
Quote: I think my stars are because of my cute baby panda.
So I guess I should change mine to a kitten? I guess it couln't hurt! Rory | | | DVD Profiler for iOS as of 3/5/2013 DVD Profiler for Android as of 5/17/2013 |
| Registered: May 8, 2007 | Posts: 824 |
| Posted: | | | | Personally, I don't like "post voting." It tends to favor "friends of friends" and such, and encourages people to go out of their way to ask for votes. It turns the forums into a competition.
It is entirely possible for an extremely friendly and polite person to contribute a lot and post occasionally, but have no stars, and that might eventually turn the person off from contributing.
A "flag this post" option would be better. | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,744 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote: I think my stars are because of my cute baby panda. Damn, I knew I did something wrong. | | | Karsten DVD Collectors Online
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Posts: 259 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote: IDK how many it takes, I once had like 40 total green arrows at one time and nothing happened. It's now down to 19 since I haven't been posting as often. Just to comfort you, I've had 72 in one go and have 66 just now. I've got these from posting images from movies for dvdprofiler photo galleries to Yves' site, but I guess these are not considered helpful for the community, because the stars have come from only a few members. | | | Markku |
| Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote: Personally, I don't like "post voting." It tends to favor "friends of friends" and such, and encourages people to go out of their way to ask for votes. It turns the forums into a competition.
It is entirely possible for an extremely friendly and polite person to contribute a lot and post occasionally, but have no stars, and that might eventually turn the person off from contributing.
A "flag this post" option would be better. I agree. We can give green/red arrows fro contribution notes and for contribution votes, but not for contributions as such, and that is what this is all about! | | | Hans |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | In my eyes if you are given a green arrow for your contribution notes... that is a green arrow for your contribution. Why would you consider it separate? | | | Pete |
| Registered: May 2, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 490 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't like the post voting either. I've been a member here for some time now and haven't been even near the one star rating. Although I have contributed a lot. But not in forums. It takes too much time for me to sit here and write stuff just to get "stars". It's like rating a person's blog efforts. Or whatever.
I bet it's nice and a boost for those who almost constantly have 4 or 5 stars. But I can absolutely believe that it puts a lot of us others down, who still are doing OUR best, but never get any star ratings.
The worst place that I'm a member of, however, is blu-ray.com. When I post there, in like 95% of the time, in the news discussion boards, I get a vote down. Not because I write nonsense or anything. But people there don't ever seem to agree with my thoughts. That if anything is putting me down and even make me hateful. The people there seem to be as mature as the people on Facebook or even worse; Youtube. It's not places filled with love, so to speak.
If there was a petition for removing the voting system here, I'd be all for it. Either we ALL are contributing, or there are a few individuals who are doing the opposite. That's the only distinction I need to see. Psychologically and in general, people have a hard time giving respect and words of encouragement and appreciation to others. Whilst it's very easy to be intolerant and treat people like they are morons and don't have a clue. |
| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Star system is not representative of your contribution to dvdprofiler, just of the fact that many people appreciated a single post. From my experience, 50 greens on 20 posts will not give you a star, but about 15 greens on the same post can be sufficient. I got my first star when I repaired a photo for another user and got about 20 greens for that (and 10 minutes work). Then I got my second star when I posted my intention to build a site to share screencaps from movies. That post also got about 20 greens (for less than 5 minutes work). Then I spent hundreds of hours to build the site, and share more than 12000 photos, but got no star since each post during this time got only 2 or 3 greens. | | | Images from movies |
| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | I would prefer a "this user finds this post hopeful" type system. |
| Registered: May 9, 2007 | Posts: 1,536 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: In my eyes if you are given a green arrow for your contribution notes... that is a green arrow for your contribution. Why would you consider it separate? That means you can get a green arrow for moving the MC to its proper place, but not for a huge original contribution with scans and cast/crew lists for TV series that nobody gets to vote on. Not many people know that you can vote on contribution notes anyway, and not many people would even think it logical to look for that. | | | Hans |
| Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: ... From my experience, 50 greens on 20 posts will not give you a star, but about 15 greens on the same post can be sufficient. ... I think it's a mixture of both. I also got stars for things with just single greens if the amount was high enough. Perhaps it's an over-all count of positive ratings. (of course with the time factor that's in) Quote: ... Then I spent hundreds of hours to build the site, and share more than 12000 photos, but got no star since each post during this time got only 2 or 3 greens. For me this is a typical place where I throw in my positive ratings: - Things that need work and helpful for many users: Screen-Caps, headshots, BYs, plugins, .. - Helpful posts - Good contribution votes ... -> Often just to say "Thanks". I'd like to see an easier way to rate contributions. The current rating feature (rate the contribution notes) is not used very often, but the work some spend on their contributions would be often worth the greeny. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote: Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote: In my eyes if you are given a green arrow for your contribution notes... that is a green arrow for your contribution. Why would you consider it separate? That means you can get a green arrow for moving the MC to its proper place, but not for a huge original contribution with scans and cast/crew lists for TV series that nobody gets to vote on.
Not many people know that you can vote on contribution notes anyway, and not many people would even think it logical to look for that. People can't vote on the original contribution for profiles either. That just goes along with the way the contribution system is designed. I may not agree with it... but it is how it is. You have a limit of 3 days for giving all green arrows. I imagine if you have the profile in your collection within the 3 days it was added you could give a green for that original contribution as well. I would personally like to see that 3 days expanded to a week or two.... would give more of an opportunity to give greens... and maybe give original contributes more of a chance to get some. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote: Yeah, the stars are related to forum posts only. To get stars you have to create a huge virtual collection. Then vote yes to each and every contribution, but, and that's the important thing, with a remark like "OK", "Oki", "Good", "Very good", "thx", "thanks", "thank you", "nice job", "excellent job", "good job again", "looks fine", to activate the clickable rating symbol. The stars will come from their own. Please be creative, you can also do combinations, eg "Oki good job thx". Just don't bore the contributor. | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
| Registered: July 16, 2010 | Reputation: | Posts: 527 |
| Posted: | | | | Oki good job thx | | | Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it? Guttermouth "Lemon Water". Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally. So I'm an anarchist, deal with it. Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted... |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,321 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote: Personally, I don't like "post voting." It tends to favor "friends of friends" and such, and encourages people to go out of their way to ask for votes. It turns the forums into a competition.
It is entirely possible for an extremely friendly and polite person to contribute a lot and post occasionally, but have no stars, and that might eventually turn the person off from contributing.
A "flag this post" option would be better. I'm the opposite. I'm fine with stars from our forum posts. They're just a silly little thing and don't cause much harm. But I'm not as much of a fan of contributions being able to earn stars. I don't what to see a system where people who contribute a lot get stars and those who don't contribute don't get stars. That would lead to competition and to some less scrupulous users manipulating the contribution system to earn their stars. For example breaking up a big contribution into many tiny contributions. Also, there are more ways to contribute than just profile contributions. Some people contribute profiles. Others contribute links, plug-ins, help in the forums plus other helpful things like sites hosting data others may wish to grab. And let's be real here. I'm sure a huge percentage of users (myself included) help out the online database tremendously by NOT contributing profiles! | | | Get the CSVExport and Database Query plug-ins here. Create fake parent profiles to organize your collection. |
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