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Anthony [Stewart] Head: common name?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSpaceFreakMicha
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Since CLT and profiler doesn't support profiles on a "per episode"-basis, it is ridiculous to count every episode. Counting per season makes much more sense, and even if we would count on a "per disc"-basis (meaning counting each season as 6 or 7 entries, depending on how many discs the season set includes), we still wouldn't have "Anthony Stewart Head" as common name, because he is credited in other series with multiple seasons as "Anthony Head".

CLT results are only way off, because people are not able to use the original title rules correctly.
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No matter how many afternoons it took - it still isn't, and isn't ever going to be, his common name for our purposes.


Rules say use CLT results. You choose to violate them here, but give lessons to other users about other aspects of rules that you want to see applied.

I find it really arrogant to choose which rules other users must follow, and which rules you allow yourself not to follow.

And when you promote Andre Maranne (that does not exist in credits), the result is even more stupid than Anthony Stewart Head (that exists in credits).
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No matter how many afternoons it took - it still isn't, and isn't ever going to be, his common name for our purposes.


Rules say use CLT results. You choose to violate them here, but give lessons to other users about other aspects of rules that you want to see applied.

I find it really arrogant to choose which rules other users must follow, and which rules you allow yourself not to follow.

And when you promote Andre Maranne (that does not exist in credits), the result is even more stupid than Anthony Stewart Head (that exists in credits).


Please tell me which part of Ken Cole's ruling about the credit lookup tool you don't understand?

T!M already quoted this ruling but I will repeat:

Quoting Ken Cole:
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The lookup tool is not to be blindly trusted [...] If a user documents errors in the database where the credit is not entered properly, that can and should be considered.
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And when you promote Andre Maranne [...]

Ah, back to that again. For the record; I don't "promote" anything, I just follow the rules. So it's all just petty jealousy, then? Since you didn't get your way on one (entirely unrelated) issue, you're now intent on ruining things for everyone else? 
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CLT results are only way off, because people are not able to use the original title rules correctly.


Well, in people's defence, I don't think it has ever been officially established what the original title of a TV season ought to be.

If it were up to me, I would only put the title of the whole series as the original title with no season designator in the OT field.
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CLT results are only way off, because people are not able to use the original title rules correctly.


Well, in people's defence, I don't think it has ever been officially established what the original title of a TV season ought to be.

If it were up to me, I would only put the title of the whole series as the original title with no season designator in the OT field.


For the moment that seems the only real solution. Or a standard season descriptor format ([series original title]: Season [#]). There's has been several topics about this problem but there's still no rule about the use of the Original Title field in case of TV series other then Gerri Cole's statement to use the title of the series and descriptor of the CoO:
http://www.invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=481636&PageNum=3&messageID=1367403#M1367403
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Rules say use CLT results. You choose to violate them here, but give lessons to other users about other aspects of rules that you want to see applied.

I find it really arrogant to choose which rules other users must follow, and which rules you allow yourself not to follow.




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@ SpaceFreakMicha

What you quoted just proves I'm right. Ken says that the common name is the most commonly credited name, so, in this case, Anthony Stewart Head.

He speaks about the number of movies, which means nothing for series. Is an episode a movie ? If not, how do you convert a number of episodes in number of movies ? No Invelos precision about that, and your interpretation is just one interpretation among others.
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For the record; I don't "promote" anything, I just follow the rules.

So follow them also here and take Anthony Stewart Head as common name, as decided by CLT (not by me).
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For the record; I don't "promote" anything, I just follow the rules.

So follow them also here and take Anthony Stewart Head as common name.


They do by establishing a common name on the forums that has been specifically allowed by Ken Cole as quoted several times in this topic.
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The bad thing is, because Ken doesn't give two craps about the people who have already bought the product, we are again relying on old forum posts which is absolute horse crap. When he made those posts he should have taken the 3 minutes it would've taken to update the actual guidelines. Don't get me wrong, it's great to see his posts in the product beta etc threads, but ffs, a little bit of face in this part of the forum, the new users forum and the technical forum would go a hell of a long way (and get more customers).
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Since you didn't get your way on one (entirely unrelated) issue, you're now intent on ruining things for everyone else? 


Since explaining this to you would be far off topic, if you want to know my position, just PM me, and you'll have the answer and the solution.
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They do by establishing a common name on the forums that has been specifically allowed by Ken Cole as quoted several times in this topic.


A common name thread just gives documentation that allows to correct wrong data and correct CLT results. We are not in this case here since CLT has not, and will not, be corrected.
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The bad thing is, because Ken doesn't give two craps about the people who have already bought the product, we are again relying on old forum posts which is absolute horse crap. When he made those posts he should have taken the 3 minutes it would've taken to update the actual guidelines. Don't get me wrong, it's great to see his posts in the product beta etc threads, but ffs, a little bit of face in this part of the forum, the new users forum and the technical forum would go a hell of a long way (and get more customers).


The worst is even that you do not get answers to support ticket suggestions. When you send a ticket, you have an automatic answer that you'll receive a mail, then nothing happens...
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The bad thing is, because Ken doesn't give two craps about the people who have already bought the product, we are again relying on old forum posts which is absolute horse crap. When he made those posts he should have taken the 3 minutes it would've taken to update the actual guidelines. Don't get me wrong, it's great to see his posts in the product beta etc threads, but ffs, a little bit of face in this part of the forum, the new users forum and the technical forum would go a hell of a long way (and get more customers).

Although it doesn't change the facts, this is, of course, very true. Even Ken himself goes back to his own old forum posts whenever he addresses the matter again (here's a more recent one, for instance, in which he actually quotes the older post). I'm guessing that he feels it's all too obvious to waste another word on. I can understand that - this particular matter certainly is obvious to me as well - but an ongoing presence in these forums could easily quash these silly misinterpretations, rather then letting them simmer for page after page. Certainly the fact that the same arguments are being rehashed, often even by the same people, day after day, week after week, month after month, and even year after year... It's a pretty sad state of affairs, really. But hey: as long as we've cleared up to someone who missed the original thread that this guy's common name is Anthony Head, then at least this particular rehash has had some merit.

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if you want to know my position

Rest assured: I really don't want to know your position.
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Rest assured: I really don't want to know your position.

So that you can violate rules as you wish...
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