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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | What about the people that are listed as performers, that actually did the motion capture, but had no voice part at all.
The credits still list them. Obviously, we can't check the voice box (no voice part), but we also cannot leave them out.
And not all of it was motion capture. The waiters were true performers, due to the complexity of the moves.
I don't see it so cut and dry, there are aspects of both worlds.
Charlie |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | There we have the High Priest of DVD Profiler talking again. Sorry but your interpretation of the rules is not the only valid opinion here. These are real actors performing roles not just voice work. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Another issue. A lot of it is not true animation, Tom hanks wore costumes and makeup. His image was the conductor. So it is not all animation. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Beowulf was nominated for eight different animation awards.
A Scanner Darkly was nominated for three animation awards and won a 'Best Animation' award.
The Polar Express, the film that started this thread, was also nominated for eight different animation awards...including 'Best Sound Editing in Feature Film - Animated'. I repeat again, I never said it's not animation so what's your point. I'm talking about the actors work in these films. Was it voice only? No. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
I repeat again, I never said it's not animation so what's your point. I'm talking about the actors work in these films. Was it voice only? No. The point, as I understand it, is, as already stated, at this time, the rules do not break down and allow for these types of animation to be treated differently. Therefore, they should have the voice box checked. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
I repeat again, I never said it's not animation so what's your point. I'm talking about the actors work in these films. Was it voice only? No. My point is that the rule is clear. For animated films, which you have twice admitted that this is, we check the 'voice box'. You seem to be looking for a reason to go against the rule simply because you don't feel this type of animation qualifies...talk about personal preference. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Formerly known as...: Quote:
Quoting KinoNiki:
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I repeat again, I never said it's not animation so what's your point. I'm talking about the actors work in these films. Was it voice only? No.
The point, as I understand it, is, as already stated, at this time, the rules do not break down and allow for these types of animation to be treated differently. Therefore, they should have the voice box checked. ^ This. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just to make it clear, that I don't agree with ticking the box & for The Polar Express & A Scanner Darkly, only the Voice Only roles have it checked in my local. | | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting KinoNiki:
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I repeat again, I never said it's not animation so what's your point. I'm talking about the actors work in these films. Was it voice only? No.
My point is that the rule is clear. For animated films, which you have twice admitted that this is, we check the 'voice box'. You seem to be looking for a reason to go against the rule simply because you don't feel this type of animation qualifies...talk about personal preference. The rules don't even touch on the subject I'm talking about, that's why I unlike you don't assume any intent behind them. Your personal preference is apparently blocking you from seeing any other view. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
There we have the High Priest of DVD Profiler talking again. Really? You had to resort to childish insults?  Quote:
Sorry but your interpretation of the rules is not the only valid opinion here. Where, exactly, did I say it was?  Quote:
These are real actors performing roles not just voice work. I never said otherwise but, as you have admitted twice now, this is an animated film. Because it is an animated film, per the rules, we have to use the voice check box. There is no exception based on the type of animation used. If there is, please be so kind as to point it out and I will be more than happy to change my opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
The rules don't even touch on the subject I'm talking about, that's why I unlike you don't assume any intent behind them. Your personal preference is apparently blocking you from seeing any other view. Are you serious? The rules say "For animated films". As this is an 'animated film', I don't see how it can be seen any other way. From where I sit, you are the one with a personal preference that is blocking you from seeing any other view. For the record, I do see where you are coming from, I just don't believe the rules allow for it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I must say... I read it the same way as Martian does. Since it is an animated movie... the checkbox must be used per rules at this time. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Formerly known as...: Quote:
Just to make it clear, that I don't agree with ticking the box & for The Polar Express & A Scanner Darkly, only the Voice Only roles have it checked in my local. I didn't mean to imply that you did, just that your understanding of my point was correct. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,506 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Formerly known as...:
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Just to make it clear, that I don't agree with ticking the box & for The Polar Express & A Scanner Darkly, only the Voice Only roles have it checked in my local.
I didn't mean to imply that you did, just that your understanding of my point was correct. I didn't mean to imply that you were implying  I simply forgot to put it on my previous post  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting KinoNiki:
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There we have the High Priest of DVD Profiler talking again.
Really? You had to resort to childish insults? You shouldn't wear the hat if you don't like it. Quote:
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These are real actors performing roles not just voice work.
I never said otherwise but, as you have admitted twice now, this is an animated film. Because it is an animated film, per the rules, we have to use the voice check box. There is no exception based on the type of animation used. If there is, please be so kind as to point it out and I will be more than happy to change my opinion. Really, NO exceptions? Okay, how about Who Framed Roger Rabbit. It's animation, right? Since the rules don't say anything about how much has to be animation to count as animation... | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting KinoNiki:
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There we have the High Priest of DVD Profiler talking again.
Really? You had to resort to childish insults?
You shouldn't wear the hat if you don't like it. I am not wearing any hat, I am offering an opinion. What I find funny is that you seem to believe your opinion is more valid than mine...if you didn't, why the insults? Anyway, since you seem incapable of having an adult conversation, I will stop replying to you. Edit: I will admit that my "I am not going to play that game" comment may have started this but, for my part, I am done with it. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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