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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | I would prefer to just write the original title of the series in ot field, without any further season-, episode- or whatever-descriper. (I see the least problems in this) |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | At this time... the way profiler is now... that would cause a problem for those using Original Title as their list title... as all they would see is multiple listings of a show... with no season info to tell them which profile is which. | | | Pete |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: At this time... the way profiler is now... that would cause a problem for those using Original Title as their list title... as all they would see is multiple listings of a show... with no season info to tell them which profile is which. Ok, this is something I missed. (I've seen this feature once, so don't blame me forgettin' it) So we would be at a separate descriper as suggested by Dj Doena, that should not be catched into the clt numbers, but for the showing in DVDP. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote: I would prefer to just write the original title of the series in ot field, without any further season-, episode- or whatever-descriper. (I see the least problems in this) +1. This is how I do it in my local. After all, if we apply the same logic for the original title field for TV Series that we do for Films, it would be the title shown on screen (which doesn't include the season). |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Again, this is exactly what would be achieved by moving all season/disc indicators out of the title fields, and into their own new field. |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | I think a season indicator is needed. The television networks air TV series often with a season indicator and are promoting it as X season of... But I think a decision should be made. Now it's all very messy for the credit lookup tool. | | | Cor | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Yes... but that of course depends on getting a new field. Until then for contributions I would do as Gerri said in the other thread... Quoting Gerri Cole:Quote: Since there is no listing under the TV Series for Original Title in the rules, it make sense to me that you would follow the rules for the title field. This would be to include the season indicator in the orginal title.
I will add this clarification to the list so that it gets updated with the next rule update.
If people disagree with this, I am open to a civil discussion as to why it is not useful to have the season indicator in this field. Quoting Gerri Cole:Quote: I didn't mean for you to switch languages in the field, I just mean if you have:
Title: TV Show A: Season 1 Then the original title would contain "Season 1", not something like "First Season".
So my suggestion was to go with your first option, Unicus. I never meant to suggest the second option. Especially since season indicators is needed for those that use Original Titles in their listing to show the difference. I am all for a program update... but till then I think as above is how it needs to be. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Yes... but that of course depends on getting a new field. Until then for contributions I would do as Gerri said in the other thread...
Quoting Gerri Cole:
Quote: Since there is no listing under the TV Series for Original Title in the rules, it make sense to me that you would follow the rules for the title field. This would be to include the season indicator in the orginal title.
I will add this clarification to the list so that it gets updated with the next rule update.
If people disagree with this, I am open to a civil discussion as to why it is not useful to have the season indicator in this field.
Quoting Gerri Cole:
Quote: I didn't mean for you to switch languages in the field, I just mean if you have:
Title: TV Show A: Season 1 Then the original title would contain "Season 1", not something like "First Season".
So my suggestion was to go with your first option, Unicus. I never meant to suggest the second option.
Especially since season indicators is needed for those that use Original Titles in their listing to show the difference. I am all for a program update... but till then I think as above is how it needs to be. I agree that the original title field should be as simple as possible. So the above structure [TV series title]: Season [#] is fine by me. But this is nowhere in the rules and that statement is from May 2009. Moreover many users don't even look on the forums. | | | Cor | | | Last edited: by Corne |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | And that is no different then many other things that are clarified in the forums but not put into the rules. It is nothing new... I would just vote/contribute per her statement... and point to it where needed. That is how we have had to handle many things here... and to be honest... I really don't see that changing. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: ... So the above structure [TV series title]: Season [#] is fine by me. ... It's not always Season 1. The statement was to translate the Title. So it can be also First Season in some cases or different. (like explained by someone else in this thread, I think) So this doesn't help very much for less differences. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Right... but this is all we have to go by for now. Any change would have to be worked out and presented to Ken and Gerri for them to approve or not. | | | Pete |
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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote: Quoting Corne:
Quote: ... So the above structure [TV series title]: Season [#] is fine by me. ...
It's not always Season 1. The statement was to translate the Title. So it can be also First Season in some cases or different. (like explained by someone else in this thread, I think) So this doesn't help very much for less differences. What decides whether it's First Season or Season 1? Why don't we just keep it simple and use a structure as proposed in the first post? The season descriptor is in most cases not in the opening title of each episode. Only the series title in the original title field is for CLT not possible because many TV series also have a movie in the series. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Sex and the City are just a few examples. The credits of the series would get mingled with the movie credits. | | | Cor |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: Any change would have to be worked out and presented to Ken and Gerri for them to approve or not. And again, here it is, all worked out: we need a program change that moves every form of season/disc indicator out of both title fields, and into a new field of it's own. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | And until then Tim? You know as well as I do that a program update could take years... or even never come all depending on Ken's wishes on the matter.
So until then (if it ever happens as I seen nothing from Invelos on the matter of a new field) I would do as Gerri mentioned... and any change for until such time would have to be worked out if felt needed... and presented to Ken & Gerri for approval. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: Quoting VirusPil:
Quote: Quoting Corne:
Quote: ... So the above structure [TV series title]: Season [#] is fine by me. ...
It's not always Season 1. The statement was to translate the Title. So it can be also First Season in some cases or different. (like explained by someone else in this thread, I think) So this doesn't help very much for less differences.
What decides whether it's First Season or Season 1? Why don't we just keep it simple and use a structure as proposed in the first post? The season descriptor is in most cases not in the opening title of each episode.
Only the series title in the original title field is for CLT not possible because many TV series also have a movie in the series. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Sex and the City are just a few examples. The credits of the series would get mingled with the movie credits. From how I read Gerri's post it would be which ever is on the case. if it said Season X that is what we use. If it said the Complete X Season... then that is what we use. | | | Pete |
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