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Diamonds are Forever
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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I'll put it this way locally 007 is not even an issue,it's simply Special edition. So whatever it is Online is totally and completely irrelevant to me.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Quoting T!M:
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It is just a symbol on the cover of the DVD/BluRay, it is not part of the title, IMO.

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But it isn't for the title field but for the edition field. So we must use the 007 and enter "Special 007 Edition".

It's exactly this inexplicable outlook on things that's tempting to ruin (the online part of) DVD Profiler for me. How hard is it to replace the word "title" in Gerri's sentence with "edition", really? Why on earth wouldn't the same principle apply to the "edition" field as well? Do we really need to hire a bunch of lawyers and turn the rules into a twelve-hundred page document with each and every eventuality hammered out? Is there really not even an ounce of common sense in some of our users?

If 007 it's "just a symbol" for one of these fields, then why would we suddenly treat it any different for the next field? Why oh why must we go through this every time? Here we have a pretty clear ruling on a certain subject, and then without fail, the minute someone dares to actually apply that ruling in a sensible way (and obviously the intended way), someone always steps up and says: "yeah, well, but that's not exactly what was said". Case in point: "yeah, but that was about the title, not about the edition". I'm sorry, but... come on!! If this isn't "trying to be difficult on purpose", then I don't know what is...


exactly what you said. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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Last time I checked you didn't had the infinite wisdom on the database, so stop thinking that you are better than everyone else T!M since it's isn't the case...

Like I said in the past I don't use the database and I'm happy to do all the works myself (since I don't trust many contributors, you included). But if you do something in a way for a field you must do the same for the others, stupid I know but it's how it works...

BTW the suppose ruling of Gerri isn't one, but an oppinion nothing more nothing less.

"It is just a symbol on the cover of the DVD/BluRay, it is not part of the title, IMO."

IMO = in my oppinion

Definitivelly not sound like a definitive answer or decision to me...
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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BTW the suppose ruling of Gerri isn't one, but an oppinion nothing more nothing less.

Does it really matter?  As one of the owners of the company, absent a different PoV from Ken, it is the only opinion that matters...IMO. 
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While I agree that we should ignore the "007" and use "Special Edition", I find it very strange that people are so willing to ignore this logo, but so unwilling to ignore the "T4xi" or the "L4yer Cake" logos. 

I don't find it strange at all.  While we are required to take the title from the front of the case, there is no such requirement for the edition.  We can use one of the built in editions or one from the case...anywhere on the case.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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Like I said in the past I don't use the database

With your preference for utter nonsense like "Special 007 Edition", that seems like a very good idea.     
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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I just deal with this topic with the usual logic and lack of common sense used here...

I don't use this kind of non-sense in my database
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMerrik
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Quoting Gerri Cole:
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007 should not be included as part of the title of James Bond films. This has been something that people have long tried to get into the database, even from the early days. [...]

It is just a symbol on the cover of the DVD/BluRay, it is not part of the title, IMO.

-Gerri


Ouch...






In regards to the original question:

Title: Diamonds Are Forever
Edition: Special Edition

I don't see any reason why a ruling from one of the owners of Invelos that 007 shouldn't be entered into the title field, as to them it's just a logo, shouldn't carry over to the edition field as well.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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It was not a decision but an opinion on something... Who had said it isn't important at all, an opinion is an opinion whatever who give it...

Now if it was phrased as a definitive rules decision it would be different and even it would be another exception to the rule telling that we must type the logo who are possible to enter with the keyboard.

When a rule is full of exception maybe it's because the rule is wrong and make no sense in the first place?

BTW the 007 had no reason to be in the title field since it's clearly go in the edition field...
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