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Mainstream Music On The Road To Recovery |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | So you have no facts to back up your claims. Got ya. And Led Zeppelin completely ripped off blues artists, down to lyrics. I like Zeppelin, but their sales are based on American artists. *edit* Here's just but one link of many. I <3 your blanket statements.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 1,982 |
| | Posted: | | | | Seriously guys you won't make an argument with something futile like this... I know we are on the DVDP forum but it's kind of childish no? |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
Seriously guys you won't make an argument with something futile like this... I know we are on the DVDP forum but it's kind of childish no? I never wanted an argument but here we are again. |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting No_Name_Needed: Quote:
Seriously guys you won't make an argument with something futile like this... I know we are on the DVDP forum but it's kind of childish no? Whoa! If someone makes a claim like that, all I want to see is some facts on it. I was looking to learn something new, no matter how unbelievable. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
Dig up your own statistics it's not really that preposterous when you think about it where talking about acts like Led Zepplin, Pink Floyd, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Elton John, David Bowie and im going to say the Bee Gees yes remember the 30 million they sold with saturday night fever. Let me see if I understand the situation... You make a general statement.Alien and Sam ask that you provide proof of that stantement.You refuse to provide proof but, instead, provide more supposition.Could it be that you don't have any proof and are simply making, yet another, assumption? My guess is, yes. Quote:
I never wanted an argument but here we are again. If you don't want an argument, don't make claims you can't back up. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
Dig up your own statistics Well, I dug up my own statistics and, while I couldn't find a chart that listed sales from 1960 - 1990 only, I did find this. It is a list of the top 100 best-selling music artists in the United States only as of March 2010. Of that top 100, only 14 were from the UK...16 if you count Foreigner and Fleetwood Mac who had members from both the UK and the US. There was one group from Australia (AC/DC), two from Irland (U2 & Enya), two from Canada (Celine Diaon & Rush) and one from Mexico/US (Santana). The rest, 78 if my math is correct, came from the US. I added up the number of albums shipped for each UK artist and, combined, they had 865.25 million albums shipped in the US. I started to do the same for the US artists but, by the time I got to #60 on the list, the number shipped had already reached 2225.7 million albums shipped. Because 865 million will never be 80% of the total, I felt it was safe to stop there. Quote:
im going to say the Bee Gees yes remember the 30 million they sold with saturday night fever. For the record, Saturday Night Fever was certified 15× platinum...that's 15 million copies shipped. It's a tad difficult to sell 30 million when you only ship 15 million.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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Dig up your own statistics
Well, I dug up my own statistics and, while I couldn't find a chart that listed sales from 1960 - 1990 only, I did find this. It is a list of the top 100 best-selling music artists in the United States only as of March 2010.
Of that top 100, only 14 were from the UK...16 if you count Foreigner and Fleetwood Mac who had members from both the UK and the US. There was one group from Australia (AC/DC), two from Irland (U2 & Enya), two from Canada (Celine Diaon & Rush) and one from Mexico/US (Santana). The rest, 78 if my math is correct, came from the US.
I added up the number of albums shipped for each UK artist and, combined, they had 865.25 million albums shipped in the US.
I started to do the same for the US artists but, by the time I got to #60 on the list, the number shipped had already reached 2225.7 million albums shipped. Because 865 million will never be 80% of the total, I felt it was safe to stop there.
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im going to say the Bee Gees yes remember the 30 million they sold with saturday night fever.
For the record, Saturday Night Fever was certified 15× platinum...that's 15 million copies shipped. It's a tad difficult to sell 30 million when you only ship 15 million. RRIA is only listing shipped units not sales and where only talking about a certain number of artists. | | | | Last edited: by ShinyDiscGuy |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
RRIA is only listing shipped units not sales Correct but, unless I am missing something here, you can't sell a unit unless it was shipped so I don't understand your point here. Quote:
and where only talking about a certain number of artists. Yes, the best selling artist in the US. Are you trying to say that numbers 101 on down would tilt the scales in the favor of the UK? I highly doubt that. If you have something to counter the numbers I have provided, please, post it as I am always happy to learn something new. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting FilmAlba:
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RRIA is only listing shipped units not sales
Correct but, unless I am missing something here, you can't sell a unit unless it was shipped so I don't understand your point here.
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and where only talking about a certain number of artists.
Yes, the best selling artist in the US. Are you trying to say that numbers 101 on down would tilt the scales in the favor of the UK? I highly doubt that.
If you have something to counter the numbers I have provided, please, post it as I am always happy to learn something new. Im taking about from 64 till about 88 in chart music not back catalogue sales over successive years. |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting FilmAlba: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting FilmAlba:
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RRIA is only listing shipped units not sales
Correct but, unless I am missing something here, you can't sell a unit unless it was shipped so I don't understand your point here.
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and where only talking about a certain number of artists.
Yes, the best selling artist in the US. Are you trying to say that numbers 101 on down would tilt the scales in the favor of the UK? I highly doubt that.
If you have something to counter the numbers I have provided, please, post it as I am always happy to learn something new.
Im taking about from 64 till about 88 in chart music not back catalogue sales over successive years. Honestly, Film, give it up. Martian effectively handed it to you. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | Registered: March 10, 2009 | | Posts: 2,248 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
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Quoting FilmAlba:
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RRIA is only listing shipped units not sales
Correct but, unless I am missing something here, you can't sell a unit unless it was shipped so I don't understand your point here.
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and where only talking about a certain number of artists.
Yes, the best selling artist in the US. Are you trying to say that numbers 101 on down would tilt the scales in the favor of the UK? I highly doubt that.
If you have something to counter the numbers I have provided, please, post it as I am always happy to learn something new.
Im taking about from 64 till about 88 in chart music not back catalogue sales over successive years.
Honestly, Film, give it up. Martian effectively handed it to you. I know i just like making stupid arguments im weird  |
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