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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | Individual of course. | | | Cor |
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| Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm sure that much of this has to do with some members who assume rather than verify.
Someone is looking through his or her wishlist (or otherwise not directly from within the movie credits) and they notice three names in a row that are have the same role individually listed next to them. This is how all of them looked in the "old style" before dividers were incorporated into to DVDP. This person then assumes that these are three names that have simply not yet been adjusted for the database. Therefore, the person puts them under a divider and submits instead of checking or being able to check the DVD credits. Meanwhile, there are voters who are looking at the pending changes and both seeing and assuming the same thing: there were three in the old style but now they are grouped into a divider as one; this must be correct; "Yes Vote." All of this is actually true without the need to check 99.99% of the time. In both cases, they are "only trying to help." They aren't trying to be malicious or anything of that nature by messing up one piece of data.
However, there is that 0.01% that are like this example where the roles are actually listed individually on the DVD credits.
While there are some pieces of data that you do not need the DVD to verify (BY since it's listed in a topic here; or MC, run time, and video formats which may be found on the back cover scan), what this topic basically proves to me is that although in a huge majority of situations the grouping via a divider is the correct choice, it can no longer be assumed to be the correct choice and always needs to be checked directly on the DVD to be sure. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. | | | Last edited: by Blair |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 20,111 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote: However, there is that 0.01% that are like this example where the roles are actually listed individually on the DVD credits. I'd say the percentage is greater than that. I see individual roles quite often in film credits. Some films can also sometimes have both group roles and individual roles. I checked a film just earlier which had both appearing in the end credits. | | | Corey |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | I have seen the individual roles like this quite a bit in my collection as well. Of course Katatonia and I have a lot of titles in common. | | | Pete | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | As do I. I audited one for crew, and checked the cast while at it, and had to correct one.
I never change to groups, unless I verify on the disc. There is to great a chance, that it could be wrong
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote: I never change to groups, unless I verify on the disc. Same here. Unfortunately, most people just assume... And then there are those - as still evidenced by the current votes on bbbbb's 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' contribution - that are completely convinced that even these individual credits warrant the use of divider. | | | Last edited: by T!M |
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Registered: May 20, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,934 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Quoting CharlieM:
Quote: I never change to groups, unless I verify on the disc. Same here. Unfortunately, most people just assume... And then there are those - as still evidenced by the current votes on bbbbb's 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' contribution - that are completely convinced that even these individual credits warrant the use of divider. Those other people are forgetting about the second part of the rule Quoting Rules: Quote: Wherever possible, these groupings should mirror the film credits If you place these into groups, you are not mirroring the credits whenever possible.. Charlie |
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| Blair | Resistance is Futile! |
Registered: October 30, 2008 | Posts: 1,249 |
| Posted: | | | | OK, so my guesstimations were way off. If anything, it makes my point more valid | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,018 |
| Posted: | | | | When voting, it is indeed necessary to have the disc at hand in order to verify, as Blair pointed out. Otherwise it's impossible to establish whether or not the actual film credits contain a header above the shared roles or not. Which is awkward, to say the least. |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,945 |
| Posted: | | | | Individual as the roles are repeated in the credits.
Donnie | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,005 |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 5,734 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quote: I never change to groups, unless I verify on the disc. Same here. Unfortunately, most people just assume... And then there are those [...] that are completely convinced that even these individual credits warrant the use of divider. Charming example: | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Wow - four out of six people vote "yes" to that ?! |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | That should have been an obvious one...unless it is in a non-native english speaking country. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote: That should have been an obvious one...unless it is in a non-native english speaking country. Which, judging from "Himselfs", it isn't... |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Wouldn't that be "Himselves"? | | | Hal |
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