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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: bigdaady:
This answer is oh so simple. Do you see Sound Design Editor listed in either the Rules Crew table or the Program....NO? Then they don't get listed. Kinda what I figured, but will continue to ask about these "hybrid" credits that pop up from time to time. Who knows, maybe because I asked this question, these roles will be on the next chart, a butterfly will flap it's wings on the moon and a baby will stop crying in public. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | We can always hope, daddy.
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | You could try, tracer, but i think Director (directed By IS covered in the rules, the crew Chart and the Program
"If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section.
SDE is not a direct translation, it instead contains information for TWO different roles in our crew system, so for now the answer has to be no, but we can hope for the future. I still think the best way is to stop this game of shoehorning and creating unclear data, just list what you see that way the day is clear and communicates exactly what is On screen instead of some sort mish mash
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote: The other argument is this, Are they a "Sound Designer" (Sound Design Editor) or are they a "Sound Editor" (Sound Design Editor)
Without them in the rules, then I say do not include them.
Charlie Indeed...and why I was leaning towards 'no'. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 951 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: You could try, tracer, but i think Director (directed By IS covered in the rules, the crew Chart and the Program
"If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section. I would not removed a director with directed by, I was mentioning the "A Film By" credit. | | | Are you local? This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Tracer: Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: You could try, tracer, but i think Director (directed By IS covered in the rules, the crew Chart and the Program
"If someone is not credited with one of these roles (or direct translations of these roles), do not include them in the Crew section.
I would not removed a director with directed by, I was mentioning the "A Film By" credit. If that's all there is then there is no director credit . You could infer that it was a Diector "credit" based on "custom" but how many times have we seen Hollywooid stray from their own apparent customs. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 951 |
| Posted: | | | | So your saying the Director should be included if they are only credited with "A Film By" credit even though it doesn't exist in the "Credited As" field? Because Hollywood loves to play with credits... just to mess with the Invelos Contribution Forum | | | Are you local? This is a local shop the strangers you would bring would not understand us, our customs, our local ways. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Oh absolutely not. A Film By Credit is nothing to profiler, if there is no accompanying Director (Directed By credit, then its meaningless. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but the the thought has crossed my mind a few times. What do we know about Hollywood...we know that they are completely whacked...anyone who could create some of the characters they have over the years has to be. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Oh absolutely not. A Film By Credit is nothing to profiler, if there is no accompanying Director (Directed By credit, then its meaningless.
I have seen "a film by" in non-US films as the only director credit. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Oh absolutely not. A Film By Credit is nothing to profiler, if there is no accompanying Director (Directed By credit, then its meaningless.
I have seen "a film by" in non-US films as the only director credit. Then that would be NO Director credit for profiler (Online). What you want to do locally about it would be your business | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,480 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Quoting m.cellophane:
Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Oh absolutely not. A Film By Credit is nothing to profiler, if there is no accompanying Director (Directed By credit, then its meaningless.
I have seen "a film by" in non-US films as the only director credit. Then that would be NO Director credit for profiler (Online). What you want to do locally about it would be your business That kind of thinking elminates all non-US roles though. If it's customary for that language or country to use "a film by" for director, I add it. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | If you do so locally you are fine, if you do so and Contribute it you are dead wrong . the Rules do not cover "A Film By" as a sole credit of ANY kind, and it is not a direct translation. So it's OUT. but I figure you ARE contributing such data and I am not at all surprised
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Registered: June 22, 2007 | Posts: 89 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Then that would be NO Director credit for profiler (Online). What you want to do locally about it would be your business " A Film by" means undoubtedly " Directed by", no matter whether it is covered by the rules or not. It was (and is) establishes in so many films, especially in French and German movies ("un film de..." / "ein Film von..."). It is a standard description. Sometimes I ask myself how blinkered some people can be. Switch on the brains, boys! | | | Last edited: by schaumi |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Schaumi:
No...it's not, it is a customary designation that a Directed By credit will accompany, but in the absence of such it is NOT a direct translation that it is Directed by. You could call it an indirect translation but in no way is it direct
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | I'm also one of those that say: If it's not in the crew chart, leave it out. But if there a crew descriptions that are meaning the same as existing crew we track, it would be good to add them to the crew chart. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | "A Film by" does, indeed, mean "Directed by." Unfortunately, as written, I do not see it being allowed by the rules. This, most definately, needs to be added to the crew chart. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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