rightly so indeed. It is against the rules for the online database.  So it does not belong in the profiles. (other then locally if one chooses to do so of course)

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While of course it's not his job to decide if it's allowed that one person makes it his life mission to make sure it never see the light of day on profile.

So? IMDb originating data should not be admitted to the online Db.

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You can always join the next Spot site which should be up by the end of this year fingers crossed.

Please stop doing this.

1. There is no "next Spot site" in the works.
2. You are not a spokesmen for Spot if there were. You were banned from there for the very same reasons people want you banned from here.
3. When you say crap like this, it's a reflection of the rest of the old Spot users that post over here. I can safely feel I speak for all of them when I say you speak for none of us, and we'd wish you'd stop.

Please stop bringing up this "new forum" or "new program" or whatever the hell it is you think you know. Every time you do this, it creates this "us vs. them" mentality that doesn't exist and it's not appreciated.

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I have no problem with it.

I have a lot of IMDb data in my local, and if Ken had chosen to license IMDb data for the online I'd have no problems with that.

But he hasn't licensed it. And in the interest of avoiding litigation and potentially shutting down Invelos and therefore DVD Profiler, I'm perfectly happy to keep IMDb data out of the online and keeping it local.

And no, I'm not exaggerating. IMDb was in contact with Invelos back when it was Intervocative about this very thing.

Never had a legal issue with other sites i think you can use it for certain info without being penalised for it.

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You can always join the next Spot site which should be up by the end of this year fingers crossed.

Please stop doing this.

1. There is no "next Spot site" in the works.
2. You are not a spokesmen for Spot if there were. You were banned from there for the very same reasons people want you banned from here.
3. When you say crap like this, it's a reflection of the rest of the old Spot users that post over here. I can safely feel I speak for all of them when I say you speak for none of us, and we'd wish you'd stop.

Please stop bringing up this "new forum" or "new program" or whatever the hell it is you think you know. Every time you do this, it creates this "us vs. them" mentality that doesn't exist and it's not appreciated.

And i love you to. I give you hug but don't think my arms can reach that far around.

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I have no problem with it.

I have a lot of IMDb data in my local, and if Ken had chosen to license IMDb data for the online I'd have no problems with that.

But he hasn't licensed it. And in the interest of avoiding litigation and potentially shutting down Invelos and therefore DVD Profiler, I'm perfectly happy to keep IMDb data out of the online and keeping it local.

And no, I'm not exaggerating. IMDb was in contact with Invelos back when it was Intervocative about this very thing.

Never had a legal issue with other sites i think you can use it for certain info without being penalised for it.

Alba:

In this country we have a little thing called Copyright....OK. Had you ever wondered why most such programs are a good bit more money that Profiler.

And have you ever read IMDb TOS and Copyright

"Copyright
All content included on this site, such as text, graphics, logos, button icons, images, audio clips, video clips, digital downloads, data compilations, and software, is the property of IMDb or its content suppliers and protected by United States and international copyright laws. The compilation of all content on this site is the exclusive property of IMDb and protected by U.S. and international copyright laws. All software used on this site is the property of IMDb or its software suppliers and protected by United States and international copyright laws. "

"License and Site Access
IMDb grants you a limited license to access and make personal use of this site and not to download (other than page caching) or modify it, or any portion of it, except with express written consent of IMDb. This site or any portion of this site may not be reproduced, duplicated, copied, sold, resold, visited, or otherwise exploited for any commercial purpose without express written consent of IMDb. This license does not include any resale or commercial use of this site or its contents or any derivative use of this site or its contents.

    Robots and Screen Scraping: You may not use data mining, robots, screen scraping, or similar data gathering and extraction tools on this site, except with our express written consent as noted below. "

Your Local is PERSONAL USE, the Online is COMMERCIAL use.

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Never had a legal issue with other sites i think you can use it for certain info without being penalised for it.

As I've already mentioned in this thread, I'm guessing one of the following is true for those other sites:

1. They licensed the data. (I know this is the case with Collectorz)
2. They didn't license the data, but were too small of an operation for IMDb to notice.
3. They don't charge for the use of their program, and so the data isn't for commercial use, and therefore they get away with it.

As for "certain info" being allowed to be used... that may be true or it may not be. I haven't looked into IMDb's specific licensing. If it is true, I'd guess that Ken has chosen the better-safe-than-sorry approach to IMDb data mining and simply banned all of it.

There's been a lot of guessing in this post, but the basic point of it not being allowed in the online remains. I'm not sure why that's such a problem. Keep it local or source it from elsewhere, it's not that difficult to do.

edit: And there you have it, the IMDb licensing info. So in no uncertain terms is even "certain info" allowed for commercial purposes. And since it's free to use when it's not for commercial use, freeware can allow IMDb data.

Don't worry MadMartian. My tax money pays for his unemployed backside to buy Blu-rays and this program but I don't think we'll allow it to stretch to buying IMDB data for him.