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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
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"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Forum Moderator |
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| | Posted: | | | | The name of the son is a good reason to see "Bowes Renna" as complete last name. |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
The name of the son is a good reason to see "Bowes Renna" as complete last name. Plus the phone book entry helps. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
I would only have one question relative to the Original data, was it documented and I gather from Tim that it was not, therefore the correct entry is 1/2/3 pending future documentation.
Skip Initial contributions of 1//2 3 need no special documentation. Changing those to 1/2/3 afterwards need it on the other side. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Graveworm: Quote:
Her birth name is Katherine Joy Renna. He son is called Luca Bowes Renna. Whilst it's possible that she and her son share the same middle name and she added that out of some flight of fancy, I think it would require some good reason from the submitter to change things. Flight of fancy...hardly, grave. In my lifetime I have seen as many possible name variants as the imagination can possibly create. We lack the data to be able to reach a conclusion beyond whatever can be found on the wweb, books or perhaps if someone wishes to contact the person involved and ask, and perhaps get an answer. I have in the past used my own mother as an example. Her birth name was Lavonne/Vondale/Elzay, upon marriage to my father her name became Lavonne Vondale Elzay Magly, now many of you would argue that her last name was E-M and you would be dead wrong her name was listed on her marriage certificate as Lavonne/V. Elzay/Magly, it had nothing to do with any arcane Rules determined by "culture", it was HER choice and there is no governmental Rule in the United States to counter herCHOICE,. She passed away as she was married Lavonne/V. Elzay/ Magly. I do not understand why opeople believe that they possess knowledge which they do not, and if they do then provide the documentation to support it, don't guess, don't claim some arcane cultural Rule, simply document what you believe to be true, if you do NOT or CANNOT or WON'T then the default is the standard. I am inrterested in FACTUALLY supported data, I have no problem with our default and when data is presented that supports something else...GREAT. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote:
(...) if you do NOT or CANNOT or WON'T then the default is the standard. (...) As you have stated yourself, there is no standard. Every woman can decide herself. Ergo no default. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Forum Moderator: Don't quote personal attacks | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote:
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(...) if you do NOT or CANNOT or WON'T then the default is the standard. (...)
As you have stated yourself, there is no standard. Every woman can decide herself. Ergo no default. Ok then, Rho. By your own statement, you have no right to try and estavlish any kind of standard yourself based on thin air. i suggest that in the future you should start sending an email to every such possible entry so that you can FACTUALLY back up your connclusion instead of GUESSING. Skip  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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(...) if you do NOT or CANNOT or WON'T then the default is the standard. (...)
As you have stated yourself, there is no standard. Every woman can decide herself. Ergo no default.
Ok then, Rho. By your own statement, you have no right to try and estavlish any kind of standard yourself based on thin air. i suggest that in the future you should start sending an email to every such possible entry so that you can FACTUALLY back up your connclusion instead of GUESSING.
Skip Contrary to your believe an educated guess is not prohibited by the rules in those cases. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
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(...) if you do NOT or CANNOT or WON'T then the default is the standard. (...)
As you have stated yourself, there is no standard. Every woman can decide herself. Ergo no default.
Ok then, Rho. By your own statement, you have no right to try and estavlish any kind of standard yourself based on thin air. i suggest that in the future you should start sending an email to every such possible entry so that you can FACTUALLY back up your connclusion instead of GUESSING.
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Contrary to your believe an educated guess is not prohibited by the rules in those cases. Neither is it allowed, Rho. And I for one won't buy it.I am not interested in your guess, educated or otherwise. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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(...) if you do NOT or CANNOT or WON'T then the default is the standard. (...)
As you have stated yourself, there is no standard. Every woman can decide herself. Ergo no default.
Ok then, Rho. By your own statement, you have no right to try and estavlish any kind of standard yourself based on thin air. i suggest that in the future you should start sending an email to every such possible entry so that you can FACTUALLY back up your connclusion instead of GUESSING.
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Contrary to your believe an educated guess is not prohibited by the rules in those cases.
Neither is it allowed, Rho. And I for one won't buy it.I am not interested in your guess, educated or otherwise.
Skip Why should it not be allowed? It is not mentioned a all. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
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Her birth name is Katherine Joy Renna. He son is called Luca Bowes Renna. Whilst it's possible that she and her son share the same middle name and she added that out of some flight of fancy, I think it would require some good reason from the submitter to change things. This is interesting. Did her husband adopt her maiden name as part of his last name? That's the only way that the son's last name would be "Bowes Renna", wouldn't it? I don't think you can use the son's name to prove anything. It is quite common for people to use the mother's maiden name as a middle name of a child. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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| Registered: July 31, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,506 |
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Her birth name is Katherine Joy Renna. He son is called Luca Bowes Renna. Whilst it's possible that she and her son share the same middle name and she added that out of some flight of fancy, I think it would require some good reason from the submitter to change things.
This is interesting. Did her husband adopt her maiden name as part of his last name? That's the only way that the son's last name would be "Bowes Renna", wouldn't it? Double barrelled surnames aren't uncommon where both partners combine their surnames. However I also know of a case where a married couple have different surnames to each other, the wife being double barrelled and the husband keeping his own. Their children use the wife's maiden name. Quote:
I don't think you can use the son's name to prove anything. It is quite common for people to use the mother's maiden name as a middle name of a child. I'm not saying that it doesn't happen but I've never come across that situation in this country. | | | | Last edited: by Ardos |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
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Her birth name is Katherine Joy Renna. He son is called Luca Bowes Renna. Whilst it's possible that she and her son share the same middle name and she added that out of some flight of fancy, I think it would require some good reason from the submitter to change things.
This is interesting. Did her husband adopt her maiden name as part of his last name? That's the only way that the son's last name would be "Bowes Renna", wouldn't it?
I don't think you can use the son's name to prove anything. It is quite common for people to use the mother's maiden name as a middle name of a child. Not at all, have you seen the birth certificate.His name is HIS namer and he could very well have Bowes as the middle name. I trear each name individually, I come to no conclusions that I cannot document, all we need is the standard which was accepted, except by Rho. Then we can move from that point forward. The bottom line is that as long as no one is reaching some arcane assumption without basis, parsing is not really relevant, we start at 1/2/3 and as documentation allows (not guesses) then we can move forward from that point. And TWO TV Roles.<gasp>, such a massive body of work, whatever shall we do. Skip Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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