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Ratings - Rated vs. Unrated on Same Disc (Locked)
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Quoting DarklyNoon:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting Kathy:
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I watch my niece and 3 nephews, ages 3 to 10, all the time. There are things they tell me they see on TV that I would not allow them to watch in my house.

As far as DVD are concerned, I do not pay any attention to the ratings. They are not allowed to watch any of my DVDs unless I have seen them first and feel they are appropriate.

Now that makes way too much sense.  What ever are you thinking? 

For what it's worth, that is how it is in my house as well.


Mine three. I don't go by ratings at all. I barely consider them a guideline, especially after watching This Film is Not Yet Rated.
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Quoting Ken Cole:
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Do we agree that lumping "Dora's Adventures" in with "Harold & Kumar Go to White Castle: Extreme Unrated" is not an ideal situation?

No, I don't agree. If something has not been rated, we can't know what age it is suitable for.
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If so, before we settle on a rule, let's get feedback on adding (to US only for now) an "Unrated" rating, with an age of 17.  "Unrated" would be used for films with "Unrated" or similar on the cover, which previously received a theatrical rating.

That may be a feasible definition. But what's "or similar"? Is the "Director's Cut" which is technically not rated advertised on the cover similar to "unrated"?
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Under the proposed changes, what would this one be?

IMHO, it should be Not Rated as it has been specifically marketed with that cut & the theatrical version is on the 2nd disc.
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So we just throw out any age basis items for any movie that has an "unrated" banner across the front.

Seeing as it's mostly a marketing gimmick, that seems pretty ridiculous.


This might be a marketing gimmick in some ways, but the film that is on the disk is NOT the version the MPAA has rated (as it has been altered from its original version), so it is an UNRATED version

Donnie

And this UNRATED is exactly the same as the existing NOT RATED. But it's wrong to assign a low age to NR.
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I admit that I haven't read all 18 pages of this thread, so maybe this has been brought up and shot down, but to me this seems to make sense:

Unrated
Any movie without a rating that has a rated version counterpart. This covers alternate cuts, director's cuts, ultimate cuts, whatever.

Not Rated
Any movie that has never received an official rating on any version. Be it because it was released prior to 1968 (in the U.S.) or because it's a direct-to-video movie or whatever. As long as a rating has never been publicized for any version of the movie, it'd be Not Rated.

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From where I'm sitting it's that simple. I'm probably overlooking something though. 
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That's why I suggested an extra field (locally) for ages. That way each user could, if he wished, assign what he feels is appropriate.
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Astra:

First of they are not necessarily correct definitions, easch title is a creature unto itself. And it unnecessarily probably complicates things.
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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:
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Under the proposed changes, what would this one be?

IMHO, it should be Not Rated as it has been specifically marketed with that cut & the theatrical version is on the 2nd disc.


Not Rated in my book
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Quoting Astrakan:
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Unrated
Any movie without a rating that has a rated version counterpart. This covers alternate cuts, director's cuts, ultimate cuts, whatever.

Not Rated
Any movie that has never received an official rating on any version. Be it because it was released prior to 1968 (in the U.S.) or because it's a direct-to-video movie or whatever. As long as a rating has never been publicized for any version of the movie, it'd be Not Rated.


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Quoting Astrakan:
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I admit that I haven't read all 18 pages of this thread, so maybe this has been brought up and shot down, but to me this seems to make sense:

Unrated
Any movie without a rating that has a rated version counterpart. This covers alternate cuts, director's cuts, ultimate cuts, whatever.

Not Rated
Any movie that has never received an official rating on any version. Be it because it was released prior to 1968 (in the U.S.) or because it's a direct-to-video movie or whatever. As long as a rating has never been publicized for any version of the movie, it'd be Not Rated.

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From where I'm sitting it's that simple. I'm probably overlooking something though. 


100% agree!
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Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I admit that I haven't read all 18 pages of this thread, so maybe this has been brought up and shot down, but to me this seems to make sense:

Unrated
Any movie without a rating that has a rated version counterpart. This covers alternate cuts, director's cuts, ultimate cuts, whatever.

Not Rated
Any movie that has never received an official rating on any version. Be it because it was released prior to 1968 (in the U.S.) or because it's a direct-to-video movie or whatever. As long as a rating has never been publicized for any version of the movie, it'd be Not Rated.

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From where I'm sitting it's that simple. I'm probably overlooking something though. 


100% agree!


Makes sense.
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So what do you do about mixed data?
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Quoting Astrakan:
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I admit that I haven't read all 18 pages of this thread, so maybe this has been brought up and shot down, but to me this seems to make sense:

Unrated
Any movie without a rating that has a rated version counterpart. This covers alternate cuts, director's cuts, ultimate cuts, whatever.

Not Rated
Any movie that has never received an official rating on any version. Be it because it was released prior to 1968 (in the U.S.) or because it's a direct-to-video movie or whatever. As long as a rating has never been publicized for any version of the movie, it'd be Not Rated.

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From where I'm sitting it's that simple. I'm probably overlooking something though. 


I think that's the way Ken sees it too. It seems to match his definition in this post.
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I think the main category still unsettled is that of the example northbloke gave:
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When X-Men first came out on DVD, it included deleted scenes that, via a branching option, could be put back into the film. The theatrical version is PG-13, the longer version is, technically, unrated.

A DVD not advertised as "Unrated", with a normal rating on the cover, but which through one method or another allows the viewing of an alternate version of the main feature that may not be rated.
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I say if it does not say Unrated or Not Rated (like Extended Cut is Not Rated) on the front or back then we go with the theatrical rating as presented on the back cover. In the case of the X-Men, could the inclusion of those deleted scenes (via seamless branching) be considered a special feature than an actual new cut? I don't have this title so I don't know what it actually says on the back...
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