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| Corne | Registered: Nov. 1, 2000 |
Registered: April 5, 2007 | Posts: 1,059 |
| Posted: | | | | But why add an option that is against the rules? That seems weird to me unless you would like to change the rule and therefore checking whether there are more users feeling the same way. | | | Cor |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | It's not straightforward. While WB is a studio, they did not act as a studio on this movie, therefore it's debatable that they could be considered a theatrical release studio. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | But tim, the rule clearly tells where wb goes, slot one. I am glad you agreed, I was confused why a poll was even needed to begi. With, paticularly when two of three choices were not consistent with the rules as they exist right now.
As discussed and I agree separating theatrical release/distributor into its own field is the best answer. I also have come to the conclusion that media companies rule needs to be moved to DVD details because its about the DVD. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: It's not straightforward. While WB is a studio, they did not act as a studio on this movie, therefore it's debatable that they could be considered a theatrical release studio. Rofl, ace. That would be true only if you have English comprehension issues. The film specifically stated RELEASED through WB. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Corne: Quote: But why add an option that is against the rules? That seems weird to me unless you would like to change the rule and therefore checking whether there are more users feeling the same way. That had me wondering, as well. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote: Rofl, ace. That would be true only if you have English comprehension issues. The film specifically stated RELEASED through WB. That's not the part I was questioning. I would think a theatrical release studio would be a studio that released a movie to theaters. WB definitely released this to theaters, but they were not a studio in this case because they had nothing to do with the making of the movie. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | But whether or not they were w production studio was not even part of the question by the op, nor the rule in question.
Now had that been part of the question my answer would have been this. Under the current system do not, if it is production, list twice. The data real estate is too valuable to waste with a "duplicate" entry of that nature. If we ever get theatrical release/distributor in its own field, I would prefer not to see such a "duplicate" entry for the same reason BUT at least it would then have better context and definition as to why it was there. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: Quoting Winston Smith:
Quote: Rofl, ace. That would be true only if you have English comprehension issues. The film specifically stated RELEASED through WB.
That's not the part I was questioning. I would think a theatrical release studio would be a studio that released a movie to theaters. WB definitely released this to theaters, but they were not a studio in this case because they had nothing to do with the making of the movie. This, the rule goes against common sense, hence leading to the confusion. I still have no idea why people have any issue with the OP question & poll. The entire reason for the thread was to get CLARIFICATION ON THE RULE. I understand that WB would be listed as the first Studio, but IMO that makes about much sense as listing UPS as the Studio because they delivered the prints. WB in this case is just the messenger and had nothing to do with the actual production of the film. I'd think that the spirit of the rule would be Orion, but the way it was written it is WB. at first glance I thought it was Orion, so I think it was great of T!M to bring into the discussion forum for clarification. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Double As explained whether you believe or not the rule is obvious and clear. Releasing studio in first slot. Period, not hard to understand at all. Now you can take issue with that as you wish, but that will not change anything today. The rule says what it says. Then as mentioned two of three poll questions were inconsistent with that rule. This is where I think a lot of the discussions go astray and I am misunderstood. I deal with the rules as they exist right this second, I have no ability to make modifications, or changes to them. I don't care what you want the rule to be, I deal with what it is. I might go into a debate upon the merits of a change, such as splitting release into its own field. But your comme nlnts degrading what you believe to be the merits of release data fall on deaf ears and here is why. If as you say the releasing studio for film is unimportant, which I disagree with, then the media company is likewise unimportant, using your argument all they did was get the disc to the store. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote: Double As explained whether you believe or not the rule is obvious and clear. NO IT IS NOT Just look at the poll results. As far as the rest of the post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Save it for the appropriate thread. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server | | | Last edited: by DoubleDownAgain |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | Only 32% of the people who voted in the poll agree with you that WB should be the first studio listed. I happen to AGREE with you on that matter. But for you to say the rule is clear is just baffling to me. I understand that it is CLEAR to you, but obviously not to 68% people who voted. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | The poll was stacked have you not read what has been said. I will not determine whether this was accidental or deliberate, I have my thoughts. Perhaps what the op should have done was discussion first. In other words the way he did it was clearly putting the cart before the horse. But this poll has absolutely no significance whatsoever because it has no bearing on anythingto do with how the rules is but more how someone might wish it to be. And that as I responded to your comments about releasing studio shows lack of understanding on your part. You don't think releasing studio is relevant, a lot of users do that is why it is there. So if it is not relevant to you it becomes a local issue. We want write and unwrite rules based on the poll of the week, this week its in, then next week out and in again. Do you really believe that would serve anyone. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | If you think the rule is clear to everyone then well, I don't know what to tell you.
Having any sort of discussion with you Skip is nearly impossible. You fail to see anyone else's point of view as well as constantly question peoples motives. I could really care less about this rule, don't really care if WB and Orion is listed first. If I did care and didn't like the rule I would change it locally and lock it down.
But I'm done with this thread and will do my best to not engage in discussions with you further as it is utterly pointless. I guess I'll join the masses and turn a blind eye. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
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Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,131 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DoubleDownAgain: Quote: If you think the rule is clear to everyone then well, I don't know what to tell you.
Having any sort of discussion with you Skip is nearly impossible. You fail to see anyone else's point of view as well as constantly question peoples motives. I could really care less about this rule, don't really care if WB and Orion is listed first. If I did care and didn't like the rule I would change it locally and lock it down.
But I'm done with this thread and will do my best to not engage in discussions with you further as it is utterly pointless. I guess I'll join the masses and turn a blind eye. To me the rule is clear. What is unclear is the info from the DVD case and film credits. And if it was based on WB didn't produce it. Then by rights all the other media companies that are listed in the media field along with Warner Home Video & Buena Vista Home Entertainment shouldn't get any credit as a media company. |
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