Quoting Gerri Cole:

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Since there doesn't seem to be clear cut evidence to the contrary, I would go with 1/2/3.

Although Gerri later posted she was referring to this particular case, this is the closest thing we have to an official ruling on a starting point. Paraphrasing: Without clear cut evidence to the contrary, parse 1/2/3.

I know several people who have a middle name that is their mother's maiden name or the last name of some other ancestor. People are funny when choosing names and the "sound" of a name has absolutely zero bearing on which portion of their name it actually is.

None of my 4 sisters moved their maiden name to the middle or doubled up on last names. I know of no such cases among my friends and relatives. Typically, around here anyway, the only time you might see their maiden name is in their obituary where their name might be entered First Middle (Maiden) Last, which is mainly done so people reading them might more easily spot someone they know the family of.

It seems to me that if the rules would actually have the 1/2/3 parsing in them, regardless of whether or not the resulting name is "correct" to any particular actor, the linking would improve. Every single case of Joe Bob Henry would link, even if no evidence could be found to determine where he is from or what his actual  name is. Correcting the parsing with documentation would fix the more famous, and probably more prolific, actors and for the unknown one-credit actors what does it actually matter if we do not have their "correct" name.

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Quoting antolod:

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It seems to me that if the rules would actually have the 1/2/3 parsing in them, regardless of whether or not the resulting name is "correct" to any particular actor, the linking would improve. Every single case of Joe Bob Henry would link, even if no evidence could be found to determine where he is from or what his actual  name is.

"It seems to me that if the rules would actually have the 1//23 parsing in them, regardless of whether or not the resulting name is "correct" to any particular actor, the linking would improve. Every single case of Joe Bob Henry would link, even if no evidence could be found to determine where he is from or what his actual  name is."



BTW, this has never been what I proposed...

Are you a member of the UN?

Interesting for me would be, if there are other reasons that a part of the familiar name should be in the middle field?

Yet I just know that a part of married women take their maiden (=former familiar name) as middle name. I don't know any other case.

Just found "Bowes" as familiar name. Never found it as a forename. So there for 1/2/3 is in that case just the arguement with marriage.
So it is imho much more possible that's 1//23. But I think just with the higher possibility, you don't want to be satisfied.


I think at names where the middle name could be both, it's much more harder. For example Tommy Lee Jones. Lee could be both a given name or a familiar name.

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Quoting Forget_the_Rest:

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The point I'm trying to make though is why in the same scenario should one set of users have to provide documentation and the others not? Simply put it makes no sense.

And having no standard starting point, which is what we have now, makes no sense either...at least not to me.  As I said, using this example, I will enter 'Kate/Bowes/Renna'.  You might enter 'Kate/ /Bowes Renna'.  Someone else, because it is their custom, might enter 'Kate Bowes/ /Renna'.  What we end up with, are three names that will not link.  A standard starting point, no matter what that standard is, would eliminate that problem.  That, to me, makes more sense than worrying about who would or wouldn't have to provide documentation.

The documentation needed to change an initial contribution could be, when nothing better can be found, that the online database features a overhelming majority of one parsing over the other for a specific person. So we always could make the linking work even for the not well known crew names where other documenation could be difficult to find.

Of course if we can find documentation which supports a specific parsing as his/her real name, we would use that.

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Paraphrasing: Without clear cut evidence to the contrary, parse 1/2/3.

Here you put too much interpretation in her words. She specifically restricted this statement to this specific case.

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Just to add something (probably to everybodies liking  ). If we only had ONE name field there'd be no discussion about parsing at all!

Paul (now hiding from the backlash,  )

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Wow...really?  Sorry Rick, I guess you will have to finish all those Farscape profiles yourself.  Since I don't care about linking, I shouldn't be entering all my incorrect 'as credited' data. 

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