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| Registered: May 26, 2007 |  Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | I know this is not the right forum, but my request for access to the Rule Committee was ignored.
I propose that we should include the original title of an episode in the divider of the cast and crew section. Much like the original title of movies or TV-Shows. | | | | "The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 554 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't understand how that's different from the current rule? Is this to do with language differences?
"Take the episode title from the episode itself, or from elsewhere on the DVD or DVD packaging, exactly as shown. If all episode titles are entirely capitalized, use standard capitalization rules instead. If the episodes are listed with quotes around each title, exclude the quotes." | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Rizor: Quote:
I don't understand how that's different from the current rule? Is this to do with language differences? Quite exactly this, yes. A lot of TV-Shows get localised Episode-titles. In so far what DorianGray wants is the opposite of what is currently allowed, since usually the original title of an episode is only available from other sources than the officially allowed. As for the request itself: This makes sense, even though this may even require a program update, at least if the original episode-title is supposed to have the same function as the "Original Title"-field for the disc. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,796 |
| | Posted: | | | | You may change the these titles on your db to suit yourself, just don't contribute them.
i think, any changes on the online db are reflected by the UPC or disc ID, so you should notice any updates. | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
You may change the these titles on your db to suit yourself, just don't contribute them. ??? This could be done without having to change the rule. What DorianGray wants to achieve is to make these changes contributable. If I understood him correctly he wants to have something like this: "Localised Episode Title (Original Episode Title)" e.g. (From Gossip Girl: Season 1; Episode 2) 02. Rache ist süß (The Wild Brunch) | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 554 |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 824 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
You may change the these titles on your db to suit yourself, just don't contribute them.
i think, any changes on the online db are reflected by the UPC or disc ID, so you should notice any updates. Please stop repeating this ad nauseam. Obviously anyone can do whatever they want locally, and everyone already knows that. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Lewis_Prothero: Quote:
Quoting Srehtims:
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You may change the these titles on your db to suit yourself, just don't contribute them.
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This could be done without having to change the rule.
What DorianGray wants to achieve is to make these changes contributable.
If I understood him correctly he wants to have something like this:
"Localised Episode Title (Original Episode Title)"
e.g. (From Gossip Girl: Season 1; Episode 2)
02. Rache ist süß (The Wild Brunch) Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Thanks for clarifying that. I think we don't need an program update for that. We just could add the orginial title in the episode divider in brackets. Quoting Srehtims: Quote:
You may change the these titles on your db to suit yourself, just don't contribute them.
i think, any changes on the online db are reflected by the UPC or disc ID, so you should notice any updates. You're right, I could do that. But if there is just one tiny change in cast or crew (maybe just an added BY or the correction of a typo) I can choose either to ignore the change or to add all the localised data again. So not really a good choice. | | | | "The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful." | | | | Last edited: by DorianGray |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DorianGray: Quote:
You're right, I could do that. But if there is just one tiny change in cast or crew (maybe just an added BY or the correction of a typo) I can choose either to ignore the change or to add all the localised data again. So not really a good choice. Or you could make note of the one tiny change and correct it locally...that's what I do. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: May 26, 2007 | | Posts: 186 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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You're right, I could do that. But if there is just one tiny change in cast or crew (maybe just an added BY or the correction of a typo) I can choose either to ignore the change or to add all the localised data again. So not really a good choice.
Or you could make note of the one tiny change and correct it locally...that's what I do. I knew someone would say that.  And what if it is not a tiny change? What do you do then? Aditionally: What's your problem with that rule-change? It's not that big a thing, is it? | | | | "The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I personally would be completely against it. I know if I get a foreign series release I don't want to see the titles also in a language I do not know.... taking up space in the divider unneededly.
1. Not everyone knows the other languages to read it (or care what the original title in original language is).
2. We are limited in space in the dividers... while we can now get most titles into a divider with the allowed length... likelihood of the title twice (in 2 different languages) to fit in completely is far less of a chance.
In my honest opinion... if you want more then what is listed in the set you are buying... then it should indeed be local only for those that want more then what the release provides. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | I find it strange that mostly those members are against the proposal that live in localities that are least affected by it.
1) Most series that are distributed internationally originate in an English-speaking nation
2) The people that live outside of English-speaking nations, buy internationally released TV-Shows AND use this program will most likely be able to read (and understand) English.
3) "Being allowed to ..." does not mean "Have to" or "Must" | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | How about using two dividers per episode? First with Original Title and second with localized title. That we could do without program change. | | | | Last edited: by Kulju |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
1. Not everyone knows the other languages to read it (or care what the original title in original language is). On the other hand some people know different languages and probably even more care about original titles. Quote:
2. We are limited in space in the dividers... while we can now get most titles into a divider with the allowed length... likelihood of the title twice (in 2 different languages) to fit in completely is far less of a chance. That is very true. That's why I propose using two dividers. If you don't like localized, or original, they are fast to remove. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 554 |
| | Posted: | | | | I suppose using two dividers may work cosmetically, but they won't solve the problem because the program will still only read the cast or crew members as belonging to the divider it's directly under.
It's not a solution, but if I wanted the data, I would just append the titles to the episode list in the overview or something which would be less likely edited and can be used as a reference. In my local DB, I include additional notes including which episodes have commentaries, what extras are on each disc, etc. in my overview. | | | My DVD/Blu-ray Collection
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | The way anyone can order from any region/locality... I can't see where anyone can say anything can't effect anyone and everyone. People have been importing DVDs from other regions/localities for many years. I really believe every decision made effects everyone.
And I for one will always say the only thing that should be allowed to be submitted to the main online profile is info we actually get from the actual release. Anything more then that should be a local only situation. | | | | Pete |
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