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Registered: January 14, 2012 | Posts: 3 |
| Posted: | | | | not sure if this is the right place to post this and I didn't find anything about it when searching, but...
is there any plan to make a Windows 8 (metro) application down the road? I'm debating a windows 8 tablet purchase and really want to have access to dvd profiler. If the price is right I can always get an intel chipped tablet, or I could save some cash and get the arm version.
with the arm version having Office and access to email, web, and media I don't see the huge benefit for the intel version when I have another computer unless the pricing comes out really close.
just a question I'd really like to be able to bring dvd profiler with me and even be able to add to my collection from the tablet and not just the desktop. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Since we still haven't seen the Android version, I would think that a specific Windows 8 app, even if such a version is announced, is a long, long, long time down the road. Maybe when Windows X is released? | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: January 14, 2012 | Posts: 3 |
| Posted: | | | | I kind of figured it'd be a long ways out if at all.
I guess I'll have to wait and see how much the x86 tablets are going for if this is a must
thanks |
| Registered: May 26, 2007 | Posts: 186 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote: Since we still haven't seen the Android version, I would think that a specific Windows 8 app, even if such a version is announced, is a long, long, long time down the road. Maybe when Windows X is released? No I'm guessing we'll see that before the Android version. | | | "The only way to get rid of a temptation is to yield to it. Resist it, and your soul grows sick with longing for the things it has forbidden to itself, with desire for what its monstrous laws have made monstrous and unlawful." |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,461 |
| Posted: | | | | I have just started testing my plugins on Windows 8 (Pro 32 bit). Mixed results so far.
Maybe some people are interested in my experiences:
What is Windows 8? (my words) Windows 8 is a follow-on to windows 7 that is designed to take advantage of the trend towards tablet and cloud computing, but on PC hardware. There are new features and software making applications sensitive to touch screens, mouse and keyboard seamlessly. User options and application settings are stored in the cloud, so that your application performs exactly the same, no matter where (which platform) you launch it.
Windows 8 "modes": There are two modes of use: Store Apps mode - applications are downloaded from the App Store and options are stored in the cloud. Applications run as though running on a tablet, although when not running on a tablet, the mouse, keyboard and touchpad are also supported. Developer software makes all devices available on PC desktops available to tablet applications, but the Store Apps run in a new user interface comprised of "Tiles". Desktop Apps mode - basically this looks nearly identical to Windows 7. All the windows apps that I have tried so far, have run exactly the same way, and look exactly the same on Windows 8, as they do on Windows 7, including DVD Profiler.
There are specific mouse / hand motions that are used to switch between Tile mode and Desktop mode. When Desktop apps are installed, the system creates a tile block that switches into Desktop mode and launches the app in "Windows 7" mode.
Now depending on the hardware you are running Windows 8 on, you may be able to access one or both of these modes. For example, a typical windows capable PC runs both modes. I am using the Internet Explorer Store App launched from a tile right now. At the same time, I can click over to the Desktop and run regular IE exactly the same as on Windows 7.
The new Windows tablets could conceivably be designed either as desktop replacements, or have hardware features limited to tablet use, and not be supportive of Desktop Apps. We will have to wait and see. I think today's tablet PCs should support both modes.
Overall impressions of Windows 8: - Calm, clean and quick - Extremely fast and easy installation - Automatically creates dual boot mode if installed from a DVD and a disk partition is available - Where did "Media Center" go? I haven't found it yet.
DVD Profiler on Windows 8: - Faster, smooth operation so far - Invelos plugins work OK - My plugin LoadDVD working so far, so good - My plugin BulkEdit crashes - With a bit of imagination, you can envision DVDP running in Tile mode, providing the long requested MCE style interface on Windows.
I will report more as I go along. I hope some folks have found this information interesting. Aside from fixing my plugins, I am hoping to get enough confidence to consider creating some Store Apps that work with DVD Profiler. | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
| Registered: March 21, 2007 | Posts: 162 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks for the information. Apparently Media Centre will be available as a download. There was talk about a small fee for it. I read somewhere thta this was because Media Centre uses codecs that MS had to pay licencing fees for and many users didn't use the product, so MS were paying fees for something users were not using. |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,461 |
| Posted: | | | | @woodg: good info, thanks. Another tidbit: Windows 8 voice playback is a lot smarter and more natural. MyTools users can hear this by using the "Say Overview" icon. LoadDVD users can hear this by copying "[SAY] %overview%" into the clipboard and clicking Tools>Automation>Run Clipboard Action. It is almost like a talking book! | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,461 |
| Posted: | | | | More news. Increasing my confidence level in Windows 8, I installed it over one of my Windows 7 Ultimate media machines. I have been having intermittent blue screen issues, so I decided to see if a whole new OS would settle things down.
After backing up my Win7 system to Windows Home Server, I went ahead and did the install. It took a couple of hours and several reboots, but all seems ok now. System is smooth and fast. All apps and settings were preserved.
My ATI (AMD) graphics software was not compatible - it just disappeared, so I installed the latest from the AMD web site. Looks all good now.
So far, I am a fan of Windows 8 (fingers crossed). | | | Thanks for your support. Free Plugins available here. Advanced plugins available here. Hey, new product!!! BDPFrog. | | | Last edited: by mediadogg |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 922 |
| Posted: | | | | BTW: The new Surface tablets (the cheaper ones) do not run Windows 8 but Windows RT and furthermore can only install software from the Microsoft store ( here's a nice article about it). You'll need a Surface Pro tablet to run DVD Profiler. | | | Deutsches DVD Profiler Forum: www.dvdprofiler-forum.de |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 485 |
| Posted: | | | | Disregarding personal interests (I am not sure to upgrade) I would think it to be commercially very important for Invelos to make, at least, a graphics design makeover to align with the Metro look and feel.
From there, a specific app could be made that is viable for tablets and smartphones, which aligns with Microsofts cloud thinking without causing excessive (wireless) traffic, like retrieving a full profile with high res graphics for every move in the contribution list.
With an outdated look and feel of the user interface, however useful to niche hobbyists like us, I am afraid DVDp will go the way of the dodo as I think it will never appeal to potential new users. Which is not in the interests of current users.
So yes, Invelos, I support this suggestion wholeheartilly! | | | Eric
If it is important, say it. Otherwise, let silence speak. | | | Last edited: by eommen |
| Registered: June 15, 2008 | Posts: 220 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting eommen: Quote: Disregarding personal interests (I am not sure to upgrade) I would think it to be commercially very important for Invelos to make, at least, a graphics design makeover to align with the Metro look and feel.
With an outdated look and feel of the user interface, however useful to niche hobbyists like us, I am afraid DVDp will go the way of the dodo as I think it will never appeal to potential new users. Which is not in the interests of current users.
So yes, Invelos, I support this suggestion wholeheartilly! A lot of users (newer users) of collection software also look for a wider area of media types. Such as being able to scan your harddrive for media, and media specs etc. Which I know dvd profiler will never support. A new and improved interface would be nice, but it would surprise me if we saw that anytime soon lol | | | Last edited: by Mysticum |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting mediadogg: Quote:
Overall impressions of Windows 8: - Where did "Media Center" go? I haven't found it yet.
It isn't part of Windows anymore, you have to purchase it separately. I did however see a link where you could get it free for a limited time, otherwise it is $10. To get the free download of Windows 8 Media Player, you need to install Windows 8 Pro, register for the Windows 8 Pro Pack through "Add Features to Windows 8" in the Control Panel, and then wait for Microsoft to send you a registration key by email. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | Media Player is already installed with Windows 8 Pro. What I think is needed are the codecs for DVD playback, that you will have to install media center to get. The reason is Microsoft had to pay a licence for every copy of Windows sold, even if they were never used. So they have made it an option instead. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,272 |
| Posted: | | | | I took "To get the free download of Windows 8 Media Player, you need to install Windows 8 Pro, register for the Windows 8 Pro Pack through "Add Features to Windows 8" in the Control Panel, and then wait for Microsoft to send you a registration key by email." from a webpage I found.
But he was asking about Windows Media Center, which you do have to purchase to play DVDs or blu-rays.
Which isn't part of Windows but an add on, and currently you an get it free. | | | HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U AVR: Onkyo TR-707 Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800 BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free) HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 1,796 |
| Posted: | | | | How to add Windows Media Center to Windows 8 Pro for free click | | | We don't need stinkin' IMDB's errors, we make our own. Ineptocracy, You got to love it. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." - Abraham Lincoln |
| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 2,337 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Mysticum: Quote: A lot of users (newer users) of collection software also look for a wider area of media types. Such as being able to scan your harddrive for media, and media specs etc. Which I know dvd profiler will never support. Since you know it would you mind to share the source? |
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