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"The Initiation of Sarah" Contribution ?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRutan
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UPC : 027616-090041

I want to know if I should vote yes to this divider in the crew section which I have put in bold?
Writing:
Based on The Television Movie "The Initiation of Sarah"
Don Ingalls: Original Material By
Carol Saraceno: Original Material By
Kenette Gfeller: Original Material By
Tom Holland: Story By
Carol Saraceno: Story By

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Thank you in advance.
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I would sure vote "no" immediately, but unfortunately there's no real consensus on this.
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Since in my local database I immediately delete all Crew-dividers I'd vote "Neutral"
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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I'd also would vote "No", but not because of the divider.
I don't think "Story by" is a credit which is used at anything "Based on..."

Btw, I wouldn't add such a divider, even if it could match the rules.
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I'd also would vote "No", but not because of the divider.
I don't think "Story by" is a credit which is used at anything "Based on..."

Since this is based on a TV Movie, if it is under a header in the credits, "Story by" could be an OMB credit.  However, if that is the case, the three people credited as OMB should be credited with their actual credit as well.  Either that, or the two others should be credited as OMB.

This, however, is all speculation.  Without knowing what the actual credits say, it is hard to give an educated answer.
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I made the contribution,

The actual credits read:

Based on The Television Movie "The Initiation of Sarah"
Teleplay by Don Ingalls, Carol Saraceno and Kenette Gfeller
Story by Tom Holland and Carol Saraceno

The next screen has a credits for Teleplay by Dan Berendsen Story by Tom Holland and Carol Saraceno.

Now, i think we all agree that teleplay by for Dan Berendsen lead to a screenwriter credit, the second story by credit is obviously a story by credit.

I was not sure if the first 5 should receive a OMB credit or if the Story by credit should be story by, i can change this of course if people disagree with the way i submitted now.

If people have a better way please let me know and i'll look into it,

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I want to know if I should vote yes to this divider in the crew section which I have put in bold?
Writing:
Based on The Television Movie "The Initiation of Sarah"

Yet another useless crew divider.
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Thanks for the infor Paul.  Here is my take...

I think the divider is allowed, however, if you are going to use the divider I think you need to use the actual credits given, instead of the generic OMB.
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I'd also would vote "No", but not because of the divider.
I don't think "Story by" is a credit which is used at anything "Based on..."

Since this is based on a TV Movie, if it is under a header in the credits, "Story by" could be an OMB credit.  However, if that is the case, the three people credited as OMB should be credited with their actual credit as well.  Either that, or the two others should be credited as OMB.
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All as OMB imho. I don't think we should treat the crew credits of a different movie/Tv show/whatever with crew roles made for the actual movie just because of a divider that shows us it is a credit for another movie.
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Thanks for the infor Paul.  Here is my take...

I think the divider is allowed, however, if you are going to use the divider I think you need to use the actual credits given, instead of the generic OMB.


so Teleplay by Don Ingalls, Carol Saraceno and Kenette Gfeller becomes Screenwriter?

Or should they all 5 be OMB?

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Thank You for the replies and I will go with a yes even if it is a little awkward.
 

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Thanks for the infor Paul.  Here is my take...

I think the divider is allowed, however, if you are going to use the divider I think you need to use the actual credits given, instead of the generic OMB.


so Teleplay by Don Ingalls, Carol Saraceno and Kenette Gfeller becomes Screenwriter?

Or should they all 5 be OMB?

Paul


For this credit (within the divider) they made the screenwriting of the older tv movie which the new one is based on, so OMB.

But as I understood the Martian he says it should be Screenwriter. (This would be something I would vote No on.  )
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Since in my local database I immediately delete all Crew-dividers I'd vote "Neutral"


That's not a vote.
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so Teleplay by Don Ingalls, Carol Saraceno and Kenette Gfeller becomes Screenwriter?

If you use the divider, then, in my opinion, yes.
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Or should they all 5 be OMB?l

If you decide to enter them all as OMB, then there is no need for the divider.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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But isn't the divider present to give meaning to the OMB credits?

So in your opinion, Martian, it should be either the divider with 3 screenwriter credits and 2 story by credits or 5 OMB credits without divider?

Paul
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All five are OMB, no divider.
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