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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | The Last Dinosaur has the following in the opening credits:
Tsuburaya Productions Producer Noboru Tsuburaya
Standard producer credits follow later. So does this qualify for producer credit or not? | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: Tsuburaya Productions Producer Noboru Tsuburaya This would get Noboru Tsuburaya a "Producer" credit, yes. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: Producer Noboru Tsuburaya
So does this qualify for producer credit or not? Why not? | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,678 |
| Posted: | | | | Why not?
Well, since Tsuburaya Productions is a visual effects company this is in effect a visual effects producer credit. Would that be eligible? I don't think so...
Would it have been different if it had said "Tsuburaya Productions Producer" on one line?
I'm just checking since there were regulat producer credits as well. The rules are tricky... | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users. Gunnar |
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| Posted: | | | | I don't think it really matters if the Production Company is a Visual Effects Company.
I think Industrial Light & Magic actually produced one of the Star Trek films.
It could be that the film company simply lumped the VFX Company and the producer together since they produced the film. The producer listed could be both an employee of the VFX Company as well as a producer on the film too.
So I would indeed credit the person as a Producer is this case.
Not to confuse manners, but yes there are credits for Visual Effects Producer or variants thereof. But this credit doesn't say Visual Effects Producer, all it says is Producer. So, like I said above, it's very likely that the VFX Company and this person are producers of the film. |
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| T!M | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
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| Posted: | | | | Yes, to me there's a big difference between what the original post describes as being in the opening credits, and a "Visual Effects by <company name>" header with a "Producer" credit under it somewhere deep down in the end credits. The latter would indeed be a visual effects producer, and that we would not credit. But the way you've described it, seen in the opening credits, and with no header tying it to visual effects only, I don't see how it can be ignored. |
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| Posted: | | | | LinkQuote: The Last Dinosaur is a Japanese/American tokusatsu co-production, co-directed by Alexander Grasshoff and Shusei Kotani, billed as Tom Kotani, and co-produced by Japan's Tsuburaya Productions, and American interests for Rankin/Bass Productions. As I thought, they are a Production Company, so I would see no reason why he can't be credited as a Producer. |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: The Last Dinosaur has the following in the opening credits:
Tsuburaya Productions Producer Noboru Tsuburaya
Standard producer credits follow later. So does this qualify for producer credit or not? I wouldn't and based on what I have read here here is what i get from the credit, Gunnar. Tsuburaya Productions is a production company not a producer, we have a field for such data if there is space for it. The producer is Noboru Tsuburaya, who evidently has a connection to the Production Company, perhaps owner whatever. So in effect the data reads as follows Tsuburaya Productions' Noboru Tsuburaya is the producer of the film. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting CubbyUps: Quote: Link
Quote: The Last Dinosaur is a Japanese/American tokusatsu co-production, co-directed by Alexander Grasshoff and Shusei Kotani, billed as Tom Kotani, and co-produced by Japan's Tsuburaya Productions, and American interests for Rankin/Bass Productions.
As I thought, they are a Production Company, so I would see no reason why he can't be credited as a Producer. I see no reason he can't be credited as a Producer either...especially when that is how he is credited on screen. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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| Posted: | | | | Ok,
The reason I was unsure is that I have never seen this type ofcredit before. On any other film where there are producers from different production companies I have only seen them credited as just producer without any company reference.
And given that there are standard producer credits and this credit, one could be led to assume that Tsuburaya is not an ordinary producer.
I actually had him as producer, but I decided to play devil's advocate and question my own decision before submitting the profile just to make sure.
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| Posted: | | | | I would list him as a producer, and list the company header with him in a divider.
I see these sorts of credits all the time on Discovery Channel shows, where you will have the majority of the credits roll, and then the last part of the credits will have "For Discovery Channel" and then a list of their people who were involved, generally various kinds of producers. I always include them, under company dividers.
I also just saw them listed this way in a set of film credits, Farishtay Kitfi Rost, so it isn't just confined to television. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield | | | Last edited: by Danae Cassandra |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting Danae Cassandra: Quote: I would list him as a producer, and list the company header with him in a divider.
I see these sorts of credits all the time on Discovery Channel shows, where you will have the majority of the credits roll, and then the last part of the credits will have "For Discovery Channel" and then a list of their people who were involved, generally various kinds of producers. I always include them, under company dividers.
I also just saw them listed this way in a set of film credits, Farishtay Kitfi Rost, so it isn't just confined to television. Well said! | | | Cor |
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| Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote: Quoting Danae Cassandra:
Quote: I would list him as a producer, and list the company header with him in a divider. Done. Thanks! Don't forget to put Tsuburaya Productions in the studio field also. I'd be tempted to leave the header/divider as it's covered by the company. If I start seeing New Line, Warner Bros and every production company headers I'm going to lock my whole program and stay local! | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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Registered: May 26, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,879 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote: Quoting GSyren:
Quote: Quoting Danae Cassandra:
Quote: I would list him as a producer, and list the company header with him in a divider. Done. Thanks!
Don't forget to put Tsuburaya Productions in the studio field also. I'd be tempted to leave the header/divider as it's covered by the company. If I start seeing New Line, Warner Bros and every production company headers I'm going to lock my whole program and stay local! I only put the production company headers in the crew if they're present in the actual film credits. I don't see them very often in movies. I think they were only included in Farishtay Kitfi Rost because it's an international co-production so there were a lot of different companies and countries involved. | | | If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world. -- Thorin Oakenshield |
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