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Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: Platinum Edition
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Let me start off by saying, there must be more than one 2-disc Platinum Edition. I withrew my contribution and will keep it local. This thread is not to cry about the no votes. I love no votes so the data can be corrected. This is to try to figure out why the conflict between our versions. I have not idea when I actually purchased my edition, so I can't say it was on release day. I know I have had it for a long time and other than for a new edition of some kind, Disney doesn't usually rerelease same editions.

My copy does not mention RKO Pictures anywhere. The picture scotthm posted does not exist with my copy:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s189/scotthm/RKO_Snow-White.jpg

At the very end of the film under the words "The End" it says "A Walt Disney Production". Recently, I read that this was not a company, but meant that the person mention produced the movie and should be listed as such. Unfortunately, I have not idea where or how to find that thread. As no other producer was mentioned, I used it. If this should not be done, I would like to know so I don't submit other contributions this way. Although, given the age of my brain, it still might forget and do it again. Just remind about this one and I will remember and withdraw...no problem.

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For the Producer thing you think of this part of the rules in the crew table:
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A [name] Production (excluding company names)
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For the Producer thing you think of this part of the rules in the crew table:
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A [name] Production (excluding company names)

Well look at that, it's right there in the rules. See what I mean about forgetting, that is exactly what I was talking about. I knew I read it somewhere. Thanks.
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Except in this case it is the Company name (which coincidentally is a person's name):


Both images from UPC: 786936-150605 (The Platinum Edition)

and at least twice more (front and end) there are title cards showing the company name:



So when it says on screen A Walt Disney Feature Production they are referring to the company, not the man.

Irrelevant but interesting is that the credits for this version of the film look different from the Blu-ray version released a couple years ago.
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I wish I could post a picture, but if you go all the way to the end of the film, you will see what I'm talking about.
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Quoting mreeder50:
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I wish I could post a picture, but if you go all the way to the end of the film, you will see what I'm talking about.

so which 'brand/ upc'  do you own .. ?? there must have been at least 3 releases along with  multiple regions and localities for this set ...

edit:  actually I own the same set you have .. let me see what I can find ......
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RKO is in the UK release (Opening Credits)


Closing Credits (Very End)
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The picture scotthm posted does not exist with my copy

No, that's a portion of a scan of a 1937 Snow White movie poster.  I found a high-resolution scan of the poster at this auction site.  If you'll look closely at the poster you'll see "(C) W D P" and "Distributed by RKO Radio Pictures, Inc.".

I also found a screen capture image of the closing credit for Snow White (I don't know the source) that shows an RKO Radio Pictures logo.

It seems pretty clear that Snow White was produced by Walt Disney Productions and theatrically released by RKO Radio Pictures in 1937.

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Very interesting .. i have ( along with mreeder50) have the same 2001 platinum edition region one upc#786936150605 2 disc edition  (that was all the craze of its time for being the most 'DVD' definite .. upon refection of my set of discs it would 'appear' that Walt Disney mortgaged himself to the max to get this movie made (under productions).. but having no money for distribution RKO Radio Pictures came to the rescue and funded his distribtion to various movie houses in  1937 to allow Walt to reap the rewards up front and pay back creditors later .. I was able to determine by using PowerDVD that these opening key screens before the crew credits appeared ... ( I also depicted that the OAR is 1.37:1 not 1.33 ) ....... did not contain the same theatrical images as what ninehours has posted above ........       



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Very interesting .. i have ( along with mreeder50) have the same 2001 platinum edition region one upc#786936150605 2 disc edition...

Those are the exact credit screens I have. Thanks Terry.
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actually I should re-edit and remove all my screens . .. .I just popped in disc two and there is a sequence of deleted 1937 opening RKO screens  ( in one of the menu chapters) , the same Titles  that ninehours posted .. and the commentary says that in 1958 Walt Disney redesigned the opening and removed the 1937 screens for all future releases of ' his' film .  ( including Peter Pan) ....
Therefore new question;  Should the DVD contain RKO as this is DVD profiler not movie profiler' ..
I would then vote Yes that the RKO studio brand name shoudl be ommitted as they they are now deemed 'Deleted Rare'  footage ....
 
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I will keep mine local, but I would think we should use what is actually presented with this version of the film...unless there is a release with the exact same UPC that has the earlier credits. If it could be determined whether that was indeed the original release day credits. I'm really out in left field with this one.
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well as per the rules we should be using what is actually in the rolling credits  ..the original 1937 film did have these opening screens but as time went by and the opporunity came to Walt between 1954 and 1958 for the 'reissuing' rights. he was able to remove those credits and they will never be seen again except for the deleted scenes that accompanied the bonus DVD materials of these releases..

Kinda like we will probably never again see the original Star Wars as they were in the 80's as what is on discs today...
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Therefore new question;  Should the DVD contain RKO as this is DVD profiler not movie profiler' ..  

I don't know why you should be confused about this.  Here is what the Rules say about Studios:
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Studios
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Theatrical Release Studio(s)
•Production Company(s)


It tells us to list the "Theatrical Release Studio(s)" first.  I know this is "DVD Profiler", but DVDs do not get theatrically released, movies do.  And the movie Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs was initially theatrically released by RKO Radio Pictures, no matter what the revisionists at Disney would like you to believe.  It's an historical fact, and no expurgation of the film credits can change that.

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It's an historical fact, and no expurgation of the film credits can change that.


I'm happy to see that in that example, reality of movie is more important than DVD (or blu-ray) credits. But why just in this case, and not in other cases (typos in credit, for example...) ?
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I'm happy to see that in that example, reality of movie is more important than DVD (or blu-ray) credits. But why just in this case, and not in other cases (typos in credit, for example...) ?

Must every thread be derailed at some point?

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