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Registered: December 5, 2007 | Posts: 360 |
| Posted: | | | | Could someone point to how to delete a typo name from the database and link the cast member it to the correctly spelled name?
The entry for GHOST WRITER shows cast member "Karen Back." This is a typo for "Karen Black." There is no Karen Back. How should this be submitted? I have the DVD and can confirm that this is the prolific actress "Karen Black." The typo name, "Karen Back" should be deleted from the database.
Just to clarify, this is the Alan Cumming directed film GHOST WRITER. There are several films with similar names.
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Registered: May 9, 2008 | Posts: 467 |
| Posted: | | | | If the name is credited correctly in the credits then you can just correct the entry and submit the changes to the profile noting that the current entry was misspelled.
If the misspelling is in the credits then you should use the "Credited As" feature. Enter the roll under the correct spelling and then put in the "Credited as" field how they are credited as in the credits.
Please be aware you might need documentation that these two name variants are the same person and you should check the Credit Look up tool to make sure the misspelled name is not the most commonly credited (It's happened). This is because we use he most credited name as the standard credit and not the "correct" name.
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,245 |
| Posted: | | | | Use the credited as feature. Even for typos.
So in this case the name would be Karen Black and in the credited as field enter Karen Back.
Of course put some documentation in your notes that prove that Karen Back is indeed Karen Black such as websites ranging from databases, reviews and/or an official website of the actor/actress/movie/tv series.
Also you should include the CLT (Credit Lookup Tool) results too. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Silvercast:
In reality there is only ONE answer to your question. How is it spelled in the credits, that is the correct spelling for THAT film. If you are correcting a user-generated typo that is one thing, and you would be wise to state such in your notes, but if the spelling matches the credits, so be it. That is why we have our "linking" system, as awkward as it may seem to many of us, myself included. If ALL users would simply follow the credits as they are written then our CLT would be a far more effective tool for linking. If the credit reads Robyn Williams, then you type Robyn Williams and through the CLT you can link Robyn Williams to Robin Williams, assuming that link to be correct. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | From your post, it's not entirely clear how she's credited on-screen:
- If the on-screen credit reads "Karen Back", then you would enter this as "Karen Black, credited as Karen Back".
- If the on-screen credit reads "Karen Black", then you just correct the misspelled entry in the profile to "Karen Black". |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: From your post, it's not entirely clear how she's credited on-screen:
- If the on-screen credit reads "Karen Back", then you would enter this as "Karen Black, credited as Karen Back".
- If the on-screen credit reads "Karen Black", then you just correct the misspelled entry in the profile to "Karen Black". The first part would involve use of the CLT which Tim wasn't terribly clear about. The second would involve apparently correction of a user-generated typo....God knows we have all done that before. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: January 1, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,087 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Silvercast: Quote: Could someone point to how to delete a typo name from the database and link the cast member it to the correctly spelled name?
The entry for GHOST WRITER shows cast member "Karen Back." This is a typo for "Karen Black." There is no Karen Back. How should this be submitted? I have the DVD and can confirm that this is the prolific actress "Karen Black." The typo name, "Karen Back" should be deleted from the database.
Just to clarify, this is the Alan Cumming directed film GHOST WRITER. There are several films with similar names.
Thanks. Check the on-screen credit in this movie. (if the credits at end and beginning movie are different take the spelling from the end credits): 1) It's Karen Black 2) It's Karen Back Check the CLT results: Karen Black: 188 titles (463 profiles) Karen Back: 1 titles (2 profiles) The Name with the most titles is the common name. If 1) then you can simply replace the actress with Karen Black If 2) replace the actress + add the credited as (with a double click on the actress in the right side of the window) -> You also have to check if it is really the same person If this was the only entry with Karen Back in you database you can delete the Karen Back entry in your local database. | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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Registered: December 5, 2007 | Posts: 360 |
| Posted: | | | | Thank you all for your posts on this question.
The front cover of the DVD of GHOST WRITER clearly shows the name of actress Karen Black. There already is a cover scan of this DVD in the database. I've watched the DVD. The actress is clearly recognizable as the same Karen Black who was an Oscar nominee for FIVE EASY PIECES, and was in several other important films of the 1960s and 1970s.
Karen Back exists nowhere other than as a typo in the DVD Profiler database. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Silver:
You still aren't clear. Is it a user generated typo or does the ACTUAL screen credit say Karen Back, if it does that is what you enter and you CAN use the CLT as outlined by Tim/ Tyhe Credit is what we follw for cast and crew, NOT anywhere on the cover or anything else, the SCREEN CREDIT plain and simple. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | In short, if it is not a user-generated typo you make NO correction, I repeat NO correction. You use the CLT to link Karen Black to Karen Back.. The data says Back that is what you enter. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: May 11, 2007 | Posts: 249 |
| Posted: | | | | I clearly wasn't fast enough... |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Silvercast: Quote:
Karen Back exists nowhere other than as a typo in the DVD Profiler database. Well, I know 1200 (non) accented names that exist also nowhere other than as a typo in the Dvdprofiler database. In fact, I never saw any other database that built its originality by introducing voluntarily thousands of errors... . Using just correct name seems impossible for many users of this forum. | | | Images from movies | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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Registered: December 5, 2007 | Posts: 360 |
| Posted: | | | | Thanks again. I am playing the DVD of GHOST WRITER while I type this. As I have said before, I have watched the DVD and I am watching it again now. The opening credits spell the cast member name "Karen Black." The name "Karen Black" is clearly visible on the front cover scan of the DVD. The actress performing the role is clearly recognizable as the same Karen Black who has appearaed in more than 200 films.
So far as I know, the name Karen Back exists no where except as a typo in the DVD Profiler database. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Once again the open credits do not play a role in this. The end credits, the list with the Role at the end of the film is operational data we use per the Rules. If that credit reads Karen back then that is what you enter. Based upon what you have said so far it sounds like a possible user generated typo. But that is not yet determined, you are fixated on correcting the typo, forget that and roll with what the data actually says. So far you have used your opinion, the front cover and the open credits all of which are unusable sources, if the end credit lists Karen Back then that is what you enter, if it lists Karen Black then you are dealing with a user generated typo which you can correct. Keep your opinion and sources which we do not use out of it and simply go where the data takes you.
All that you need to do is determine whether or not it is a user generated typo and you can only do that by following the Rules and taking the data where they say to take it from, the end credits, not your belief, not the cover and not the opening credits. Simply the end credits and ONLY the end credits and if they say Karen back then it is not a user generated typo that you can or should correct, you can only use the CLT to link the two names, if however as I suspect that the end credit says Karen Vlack then you are free to correct the user generated typo and i would highly recommend including a comment in your notes that you fixing a user generated typo. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: December 5, 2007 | Posts: 360 |
| Posted: | | | | I just checked the end credits again and "Karen Black" is credited.
This is not a good process for correcting data entry mistakes.
Thank you again for your help. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Good glad to see that, Silver, all you have to do is take the data where the rules say to take it from....each and every time | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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