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Running Time of a Film
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorSwissFilm
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Hi to all

In a contribution I made somebody voted no because running time wrong, check the disc. Now my question, how to check this. I have NO blu-ray drive in my PC, can only see the film on TV in the upper floor. Must I see the film with a clock to see how long it lasts or what? I made surely over 100 contributions until today without checking the running time. If there would be an easy way I would do it, but I don't see how.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
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most blu ray players when playing movie back thru its own machine to TV has if you hit pause the time spent and time remaining feature on the pause freeze image .. Or not??

and any type of Disc ID or running times should be reported with PC software - and if no Blu Ray rom available just contribute - i.e.  Crew Cast / Movie studios / cover art / Overview / year of release  etc ..

what is the title BTW ...  ??
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Hi

OK, there is just my experience if you contribute not the full film details with all informations it stays like this forever in the database as nobody contributes the missing part. With blockbusters no problem, but with films not so known, I find so many in the database incomplete and that nerves me also as a user when I enter a film and it is only half of it here. I find, a contribution has to be complete or not, but if nobody does contributions DVD Profiler is not half the worth of what it is now. For a normal user it is important he gets as much informations as possible and this is unfortunatley often not the case. I had about 100 DVD, each had the front image but no backcover and the films were in the database mostly 3 years and longer and still not complete. So I began for the profit of all doing the contribution of all those backcovers and so on. When a film is declined just because a voter knows the real good running time, why not give a yes so all is for others in the database and then correct the running time himself.

When I give a NO vote I immediately make a better or correcting contribution. Only NO but doing nothing is not the solution to have a good and complete database. Vote no, but then do it better immediately, ok?

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTomGaines
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It's not against the rules to take the running time from the cover. But if someone has made the effort to get the actual running time from the disc and contributed it, then you are not allowed to overwrite this info again with the info from the cover. So always check previous contribution notes if someone has entered the actual running time from disc.


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BTW: The title is a German release: Die Legende der Wächter 3D: Blu-ray 3D + Blu-ray Edition and I have in there 93 minutes also it should be 97 minutes.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorTomGaines
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In general:
If no runtime is currently entered in the profile, you are free to use the one from the cover.
But if a runtime is already entered, you should only change it if you verified the actual runtime on the disc.


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yes IMDB lists it as 97 minutes USA / IMAX  101 min ..
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You say in your opening post that you have no blu-ray drive in your computer - so how are you transcribing the cast and crew?

Anyway to answer your question: my first blu-ray player didn't display the runtime when I paused it (thankfully my new one does) - so when I finished watching a blu-ray film I would do the following:

Get a pad, a pen and something to rest on...then I would write down the cast/crew/audio/subtitles/runtime etc to transfer to Profiler. It took ages but - as you have said - a complete contribution is much better than one with missing information.

So, my advice to you is either grab a pen and paper and start writing.

I don't have a BD Drive in my PC either - but when we bought our new BD player I moved my old one to my desk and hooked up a small TV to it which. So, now I can play the BD and copy to Profiler without having to write everything down.
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and I'm curious to know .. the silk screen dvd(BD)  lists the runnig time at 97 min  and the cover art rear shows 97 minutes .. how did you get 93 min  without a PC program attached .. ??? 

thanks ...   
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Quoting widescreenforever:
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and I'm curious to know .. the silk screen dvd(BD)  lists the runnig time at 97 min  and the cover art rear shows 97 minutes .. how did you get 93 min  without a PC program attached .. ???


It was a pre-release title when first submitted and the running time was taken from another website (in this case cinefacts.de according to the contribution notes). The 93 min running time is probably the one with PAL-Speedup, which the DVD release would have, but which is not the case with Blu-ray releases.


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    /  thanks  Tom
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Hi

Yeah, it was told that all is from cinefacts.de. Thats why I took the time from the backcover of me where it is written 93 minutes. If there would be written in the first contribution running time taken from disk I wouldn't have changed it. I just changed it because of this cinefacts.de.

The other thing about cast and crew. A lot of blu-ray do already exist since a longer time on DVD and are re-published on Blu-ray now. So I could take a lot of time the details from an existing DVD, mostly from the country where the film was done like USA. That is the easy way and as far as I know allowed. For some I did write it down from the TV screen to publish it. I must see if my player can to that with the stop to see the running time. Am I right, the running time is the full film, with opening and closing credits, right?

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Quoting TomGaines:
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In general:
If no runtime is currently entered in the profile, you are free to use the one from the cover.
But if a runtime is already entered, you should only change it if you verified the actual runtime on the disc.


This is exactly how I see it.
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Quoting SwissFilm:
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Hi

Yeah, it was told that all is from cinefacts.de. Thats why I took the time from the backcover of me where it is written 93 minutes. If there would be written in the first contribution running time taken from disk I wouldn't have changed it. I just changed it because of this cinefacts.de.

The other thing about cast and crew. A lot of blu-ray do already exist since a longer time on DVD and are re-published on Blu-ray now. So I could take a lot of time the details from an existing DVD, mostly from the country where the film was done like USA. That is the easy way and as far as I know allowed. For some I did write it down from the TV screen to publish it. I must see if my player can to that with the stop to see the running time. Am I right, the running time is the full film, with opening and closing credits, right?



Fritz


Yes Full film... including opening and closing credits.
Pete
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The running time is runtime of the disc itself. Might this niclude open/close credits, yes and I believe it should. But that is not what we use. if the disc itself says the runtime is 93 minutes, notice  I said the disc itself, not the back cover or ANY other source PER THE RULES.. Then 93 minutes is the runtime per the Rules, if you make a different determination based upon some standard of your own then you are wrng, you could enter 97 locally and not contribute it. The Rules do not permit you to sit with a stopwatch and determine the runtime by your or my standards and different filmmakers do have differing opinions over what they consider runtime. +
Don't impose your opinion or your standard over the data that WE use and do not impose your own standards when the Rules do not provide for YOUR standard, even though some of us might agree.
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sometimes... A studio that currently owns an older title such as, say, Universal  will open the running time with their own fancy fanfare.. then  dissolve to the original year of, say, Paramount Pictures opening logo all together in chapter 1 of the authoring of the said title .. which in turn may push the running time over the magic mark of the 30 second mark which in turn gives the title an 'extra'  minute ...  but that would be allowed as this is DVD profiler not Movie profiller
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