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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | This came up in another discussion, and I was just curious...when you enter cast, do you:
Go directly to the end credits and enter those
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Compare the opening and end credits to see if anybody is listed in opening credits, but not in the end credits | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Explained it in the other thread... neither option is really true for me since I do not actually compare the credits... so what would you say I would vote for? Comparing anyway since I take from both beginning and end? | | | Pete |
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Registered: April 17, 2007 | Posts: 771 |
| Posted: | | | | I always start with the opening credits for crew and cast, then when the order of end credits more or less matches the opening credits (top billed actors first) that's fine, otherwise for my local I start with top billed from opening credits and use a divider for the rest - which of course makes contributions more work since I have to save the local version, remove the first part, contribute and restore my version. But by doing this I also check if cast from opening credits is part of end credits. | | | |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,749 |
| Posted: | | | | I try to always make sure those listed in the opening are in the cast list of the profile in DVDP. On very rare occasions I will find one or two that are not. | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 950 |
| Posted: | | | | I admit, I've been one that goes to the end credits first and go by that, however, for tv shows, it's the opposite, the opening credit cast first, then the end. After reading the other thread, I'll be changing my habits for movies...though, honestly, I think I'm pretty good and catching extra cast in the opening ones as I do go through and look for crew and usually a name will stand out for me if I haven't seen it in the end credit's list.
For me, I've noticed a lot of movies that have cast credited only in the opening credits usually are done in an unique way...like their picture frozen with their name/character name on it, so it's usually obvious that it's a custom credit list... | | | Lori |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | 99% of thie time I get them from end credits, but now always go back over opening to make sure everyone is counted for after getting them from the end. I didn't use to, but noticed a couple flicks had a name or 3 in front that weren't in the end creds, so I've doubled back ever since.
If it's a profile I'm auditing that already has cast info submitted, I'll do the checking first while the opening creds play and I'm waiting for crew like costumes. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 168 |
| Posted: | | | | First off, I'll state that I've rarely had occasion to contribute a cast listing, so whatever method I've used - by the rules or not - has had no effect on the online db.
I start with any opening credits, then I'll continue with those listed at the end. I do not enter anyone a second time though while appending the ending cast names. It's usually pretty easy to remember which names are already entered via the starting credits since there's rarely more than a handful of persons listed at the start of the film. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | I go directly to the end credits, but if it looks like someone might be missing (and I usually compare this with some other source such as IMDb to catch name variants) I of course go back to check the opening credits. But most often this is not needed. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | I go to the opening credits for crew only then I skip to the end credits for the rest of the crew. Actually the more new crew roles are added to the rules, I tend to be willing to drop the crew in the end credits. For cast I usually only consult the end credits. Only if some expected top billed actor is missing in the end credits, I do return to the opening credits and add the missing cast to the top of the list.
This method works for me for most Hollywood films. But some foreign films (specially Bollywood) use a completely different scheme for their cast lists. For those films the cast is usually split into two (opening and end credits) or even more lists (e.g. cast before and after crew in end credits) without repeating any actor. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,774 |
| Posted: | | | | I only do credits for TV series, so I start with the opening sequence before going to the ending credits. | | | Last edited: by SpaceFreakMicha |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | For many contributions I made from scratch (essentially french movies from 60-90), there were no end credits, or only for minor actors. All main cast was in opening credits, without roles. Those had to be filled watching the movie.
Working with only end credits would loose all main cast. | | | Images from movies | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: For many contributions I made from scratch (essentially french movies from 60-90), there were no end credits, or only for minor actors. All main cast was in opening credits, without roles. Those had to be filled watching the movie.
Working with only end credits would loose all main cast. Those films are exactly the reason why the rules, as they are written today, make sense not only for TV shows but for feature films as well. |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,945 |
| Posted: | | | | I do it differently for tv and movies. Movies: I go directly to end credits, tbh I never thought there are persons in a movie that are credited in the opening and NOT also in the end credits, at least it never occured to me I know in older movies they had no end credits, but such films I do not own TV Shows: I check both ,as it happens most of the time that people are in the opening credits and the rest is in the end credits (supportiung cast) For Crew I always start with opening credits and then look for more in the end credits. Donnie | | | www.tvmaze.com | | | Last edited: by DarklyNoon |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 8,736 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting DarklyNoon: Quote: I never thought there are persons in a movie that are credited in the opening and NOT also in the end credits, at least it never occured to me Well, it certainly does happen. Having a quick glance through your own collection, for instance, 'True Lies' springs to mind as an example. How I do this myself? I check both, of course - how else could I ever claim that I've done a full audit? Additionally, I don't understand why so many people claim they "go directly to end credits" - I virtually ALWAYS audit both cast and crew at the same time, so I'll automatically be going through the opening credits to scan for directors, writers, composers, editors, production designers and costume designers. As such, I virtually NEVER skip directly to the end credits - that only ever happens when I'm revisiting a previously-audited film to re-confirm a particular credit for some reason. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,197 |
| Posted: | | | | But the question related to cast. | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote: Additionally, I don't understand why so many people claim they "go directly to end credits" - I virtually ALWAYS audit both cast and crew at the same time, so I'll automatically be going through the opening credits to scan for directors, writers, composers, editors, production designers and costume designers. As such, I virtually NEVER skip directly to the end credits - that only ever happens when I'm revisiting a previously-audited film to re-confirm a particular credit for some reason. I am not sure what is so hard to understand as the question was "how do you enter cast?" As I explained in the thread that brought this up, when I audit a title, I enter crew from opening credits, then skip to the end for the cast and the rest of the crew. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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