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| Registered: June 8, 2007 |  Posts: 151 |
| | Posted: | | | | Looking for understanding of Stunt Crew
I know we don't allow stunt crew except when part of the main cast credits.
I am currently working on the profile for the Rundown (BD)
The end credits show the two Stunt Coor. Part of the main cast with no spaces between them and then a Title showing Stunts, listing the rest of the Stunt Crew.
With the Seperation of the Stunt Title I know the rest dont belong. but what about the two Stunt Coor. that are part of the Credits do they belong. |
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| Registered: April 3, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,998 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is my understanding that Stunts should only be included when integrated within the Cast
This would be allowed
Cast
Cast
Cast
Stunts
Stunts
Stunts
Cast
Cast
Cast
This would not be allowed
Cast
Cast
Cast
Stunts
Stunts
Stunts
(But this was before Group Dividers) |
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| Registered: June 8, 2007 | | Posts: 151 |
| | Posted: | | | | it is my understanding that as long as there is not space between the two its Ok.
This is what it looks like
Cast
Cast
Cast
Stunt
Stunt
Title of Stunt Crew
Stunt Crew
Now the title Stunt Crew and The Stunt Crew should not be included but the other two are part of Main cast credits. | | | | Last edited: by Darknite |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have actually changed my opinion on this. I never really liked entering them, and Gerri gave me an out...that out being, cast lists don't have to be complete to be accepted. Since she made that statement, I have stopped entering stunt players that are added at the end of the cast list. If they are incorporated within the cast, however, I still enter them. That doesn't really answer your question, but that is my new take on it.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | There was also a very good rule proposal in the Contribution Rules Committee forum (right here), which included, among many other improvements, the line "Never include stunt people". Unfortunately, like many good suggestions made in the Contribution Rules Committee forum lately, nothing was ever done with it... I certainly don't enter them. |
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| Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | The only time I enter stunt crew is if they're squished inbetween cast members. If they're at the end of the cast list by themselves I never enter them. | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Darknite: Quote:
it is my understanding that as long as there is not space between the two its Ok.
This is what it looks like
Cast
Cast
Cast
Stunt
Stunt
Title of Stunt Crew
Stunt Crew
Now the title Stunt Crew and The Stunt Crew should not be included but the other two are part of Main cast credits. I fully agree here. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
I have actually changed my opinion on this. I never really liked entering them, and Gerri gave me an out...that out being, cast lists don't have to be complete to be accepted. Since she made that statement, I have stopped entering stunt players that are added at the end of the cast list. If they are incorporated within the cast, however, I still enter them. Agreed. In the example given by Darknite I wouldn't enter the Stunt people at all. But according to the rules and the general agreement we seem to have, it may be perfectly OK to do so. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: May 9, 2007 | | Posts: 1,536 |
| | Posted: | | | | Stunt Coordinators can't be "Cast" since they don't play in the movie, they are "Crew" at best, and not of a type that we keep track of. | | | | Hans |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 20,111 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Staid S Barr: Quote:
Stunt Coordinators can't be "Cast" since they don't play in the movie, they are "Crew" at best, and not of a type that we keep track of. That's making an assumption that they didn't appear in the film. If they are credited within the Cast, there is a reason for it and they should be included then. I've seen stranger roles in movie casts before. | | | | Corey |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Katatonia: Quote:
.... I've seen stranger roles in movie casts before. Brandy's Dad's Balls as Themselves?!  |
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| Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | I don't know hos the current ruling is on Stunt people. (Is there somethng in the rules?)
But I think there are difference:
- Stunman/Stuntwoman you can see on the screen (Double for ...)
- Stuntcrew that does the preparation, ...
First I would se as cast that should get tracked, because it can be seen in the movie.
Second would be Crew, until not otherwise defined in the rules, not to be tracked. |
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| T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | A "Stunt Coordinator" is never ever part of the cast, as far as I'm concerned. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Stunt people aren't mentioned in the credit rules. I do not add them. I didn't see standard film credits yet where stunt people were listed among actors. | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] | | | | Last edited: by bbbbb |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I only enter them if they have a role name attached. (And stunt coordinator is not a valid role name imo, it's a crew task.) | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 413 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
I only enter them if they have a role name attached. (And stunt coordinator is not a valid role name imo, it's a crew task.) You shouldn't make that kind of statements. What if the film is somehow related to the film industry and one of the actual roles is "Stunt Coordinator". You have to be sure that the credit really is for a "real" stunt person and not for a person who plays a role of a stunt person. |
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