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Group Divider?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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Had a polite PM conversation about this which has put a doubt in my mind, would this be a appropriate use for a Group Divider



<<<<And Introducing>>>>
Doe Avedon 
Karen Sharpe
John Smith

These names appear at the end of the cast list
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No, please.

I wouldn't want to click on someone's cast name and find out their role was "and Introducing".
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Good god, please don't do this.
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I personally wouldn't add it either.

Is it a "logical grouping"? Ehh...
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I certainly wouldn't do it myself
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I, on the other hand, would.  First, it is what the credits say.  Second, it is good information as it indicates that this was their first ever role.
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I wouldn't do it...
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I, on the other hand, would.  First, it is what the credits say.  Second, it is good information as it indicates that this was their first ever role.


Not as a group divider.  A group divider will associate the role "And introducing"

If you were going to do it, I say it is a cast division and would use an Episode Divider.

I personally wouldn't, to me the information is not relevant

Charlie
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I would not have thought to add this information. I wonder if Mucki's trivia section might not be a better place for this type of information.
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I, on the other hand, would.  First, it is what the credits say.  Second, it is good information as it indicates that this was their first ever role.


Not as a group divider.  A group divider will associate the role "And introducing"

If you were going to do it, I say it is a cast division and would use an Episode Divider.

I personally wouldn't, to me the information is not relevant

Charlie

Episode divider would be completely wrong. But I wouldn't use a group divider as well.
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I asked for this last year for actors who today are well known . , thought it would be neat to locate their inital screen debuts but it was frowned on then as frowned on now ....
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I, on the other hand, would.  First, it is what the credits say.  Second, it is good information as it indicates that this was their first ever role.


Not as a group divider.  A group divider will associate the role "And introducing"

If you were going to do it, I say it is a cast division and would use an Episode Divider.

I personally wouldn't, to me the information is not relevant

Charlie

It is a group of actors under a singe header.  Sounds like a group divider to me.  The fact that it will associate 'And Introducing' with the role isn't relevant...at least in my opinion.
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A definite "no" from me as well.
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I wouldn't enter it.

That doesn't mean I'd vote no to a contribution to it though as I can see the other side of the coin as well. I'd probably just vote neutral on it.

But no, personally, I would never enter something like that as a group divider.
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That doesn't mean I'd vote no to a contribution to it though as I can see the other side of the coin as well. I'd probably just vote neutral on it.

I would. I'd refer to this poll and vote "no". While this "I can see the other side of the coin as well" stance is really nice, all that it results in is an inconsistent mess in the database: some profiles will have this, others won't. If something like this was accepted into one of my profiles, that would mean I'd have to put it in myself just to be able to submit any further cast additions or corrections, and then remove it again locally. I'm a fairly simple guy: either we do something, or we don't. Here we've got a pretty strong majority of users not wanting this, so I say: let's not do it, then.

Frankly, I'm sick and tired of "we'll have to agree to disagree" - again, it sounds lovely, but at the end of the day, it means the database turns into an inconsistent mess. Rather than "we'll have to agree to disagree" where both sides keep doing whatever they prefer, I want a definitive answer to recurring issues like this. Ideally, Ken should step in (far) more often to settle these matters.
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Ideally, Ken should step in (far) more often to settle these matters.


Agreed.
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