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Nicolas Winding Refn name change |
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| Registered: February 28, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 21 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hi Would like to say that I will be making some changes soon (if you aprove  ) to Nicolas Winding Refn's name in this database (director of "Pusher Triology", "Bronson", "´Valhalla Rising" etc) - The most common name on Invelos states "Winding" is a middle name - it's not - he has a double last name: Winding is from his mother's last name and Refn is his father's. I should know this as I'm related (if in doubt, check the dedication to "Valhalla Rising" and do the math ). Ofcourse, I can only do this on the films I own, but if anyone else who has copies from other regions and they can change them, it would be great. Thanks |
| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,945 |
| | Posted: | | | | good research | | | | www.tvmaze.com |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting oliverw: Quote:
Winding is from his mother's last name and Refn is his father's. While I agree with you, it may be interesting to know that the DVD Profiler users generally don't consider that as "proof". See, for instance, the outcome of the heated debate on David Ogden Stiers, where "Ogden" also came from his mother (Margaret Elizabeth Ogden), but the userbase insists that it's David/Ogden/Stiers regardless. Since this is pretty much the same scenario, I have to warn you that propagating this particular change may not be an entirely smooth ride, but you've got my vote. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Mine too.
Especially since it's an European name and there are not many countries in Europe where last names can be changed to middle names (I don't know of any, but at least am quite sure that Denmark doesn't belong to those). | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: February 28, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 21 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
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Winding is from his mother's last name and Refn is his father's.
While I agree with you, it may be interesting to know that the DVD Profiler users generally don't consider that as "proof". See, for instance, the outcome of the heated debate on David Ogden Stiers, where "Ogden" also came from his mother (Margaret Elizabeth Ogden), but the userbase insists that it's David/Ogden/Stiers regardless. Since this is pretty much the same scenario, I have to warn you that propagating this particular change may not be an entirely smooth ride, but you've got my vote. Fair enough - I'm not gonna ask him for his birth certificate either to prove my point.... But I'm glad for your support (seriously, I know what I'm talking about, we grew up together). |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
Mine too.
Especially since it's an European name and there are not many countries in Europe where last names can be changed to middle names (I don't know of any, but at least am quite sure that Denmark doesn't belong to those). Don't know about Denmark, but in Norway you can only have one last name. The rest is classified as first or middle names | | | 
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| | Registered: February 28, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 21 |
| | Posted: | | | | Ok - I'll consider calling all your family members Klukiiy - since there is no substantial proof that on the information Highway that they are called otherwise A brief family history here (to prove my point): Jang's (aka Nicolas) mother, Vibeke, was born "Tuxen" but married my Grandfather, Thomas Winding, sometime in the late 50's/early 60's (hence her name was changed to "Winding") - they had some kids (my father being one of them) and got divorced. Later on, she married Anders Refn (all these names can be found on IMDB) and they had Jang - now, this is where it gets complicated: Jang's mother never gave up the name Winding (to much anger to some family members - actually, we arn't even original "W"indings, but descend from ""V"indings - like Kai Vinding, who had a hit with the theme from Mondo Cane, but was changed by my great grandfather because he thought it sounded too German (during the second WW2)! But that's a completely different story... Where was i? Yes, my grandmother gave birth to Jang - she wanted him to share the same LAST NAME as his siblings (Winding) and therefore gave him Winding as a last name (actually Refn was added when he was 17 and got baptised). Anyways, there is no proof of this (that I wont feel really disgusting handing out ), but to answer "reybr" - I have 6 godparents - do you have that in Norway? Feel I've said too much  |
| | Registered: February 28, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 21 |
| | Posted: | | | | Would also just like to add: poor David Ogden Stiers' mum - we DVD nerds are cruel. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting reybr: Quote:
Don't know about Denmark, but in Norway you can only have one last name. The rest is classified as first or middle names That's the official stance in Sweden too. | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 | | | | Last edited: by Nexus the Sixth |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
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Don't know about Denmark, but in Norway you can only have one last name. The rest is classified as first or middle names
That's the official stance in Sweden too. Wow, learned something new. Thanks.  And this includes family names that change to middle names?  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
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Don't know about Denmark, but in Norway you can only have one last name. The rest is classified as first or middle names
That's the official stance in Sweden too. For years we have been told that the middle name concept is strictly a 'U.S.' thing and, because of that, it should be removed from Profiler. I am, to say the least, a little surprised by this bit of news. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting oliverw: Quote:
Would also just like to add: poor David Ogden Stiers' mum - we DVD nerds are cruel. Why poor mum? I am guessing that she was involved in the decision to give him her maiden name as his middle name. Just because it doesn't conform to what you are used to, we should feel sorry for her? Am I missing something here?  Edit: just to be clear, I am not trying to be an ass, I am just confused by the sentiment.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| | Registered: March 28, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
For years we have been told that the middle name concept is strictly a 'U.S.' thing and, because of that, it should be removed from Profiler. I am, to say the least, a little surprised by this bit of news. I'm guessing people have said that due to terminology and implementation differences. I'm Swedish, and I have three names in addition to my last name. My "tilltalsnamn" ("addressing name") functions as my first name, and my "andranamn" ("secondadry names") functions as my middle names. Now, my "tilltalsnamn" is name number 2, while my "andranamn" are names number 1 and 3. So, by using U.S. naming conventions, this is how I'm named: Middle Name / First Name / Middle Name / Last Name This is not at all uncommon and entirely how my parents intended for it to be. | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS!
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| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
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Don't know about Denmark, but in Norway you can only have one last name. The rest is classified as first or middle names
That's the official stance in Sweden too.
Wow, learned something new. Thanks.
And this includes family names that change to middle names? This would have been my question too. Could someone please give clarification here?? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| | Registered: March 28, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,299 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
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And this includes family names that change to middle names?
This would have been my question too.
Could someone please give clarification here?? I'm not a formal expert on this, but I think in Sweden only nobility can use two "words" for a last name. As in "von Sydow" and the like. edit: Did a quick Google search, and there's numerous websites out there that says according the naming legislation in Sweden you cannot have two last names. Even if you yourself consider it to be two last names, officially the government considers one of them a "middle" name. And that includes hypenated last name. Meaning, even if someone calls themselves Maria Andersson-Svensson, technically Svensson is her last name while "Maria Andersson" are her first and middle names. | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS!
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| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Astrakan: Quote:
Quoting Silence_of_Lambs:
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And this includes family names that change to middle names?
This would have been my question too.
Could someone please give clarification here??
I'm not a formal expert on this, but I think in Sweden only nobility can use two "words" for a last name. As in "von Sydow" and the like.
edit: Did a quick Google search, and there's numerous websites out there that says according the naming legislation in Sweden you cannot have two last names. Even if you yourself consider it to be two last names, officially the government considers one of them a "middle" name. And that includes hypenated last name. Meaning, even if someone calls themselves Maria Andersson-Svensson, technically Svensson is her last name while "Maria Andersson" are her first and middle names. That is fascinating. It seems a bit archaic to have the government worry about people's last names.* (Note, I'm not slamming Sweden. There's plenty of archaic decisions going on in the US government, too.  ) | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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