Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next
What a Mess in The Gulf.. Who lives near the shoreline??
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Between the four US states, we must have a few members here who live and quite possibly have a standard of living due to the Gulf of Mexico..and their locality . What a Nightmare and where is it going to go in regards to the livelihood of Fisherman and the perils of all that containmentated seafood.????
also being reported that the smell of the oil will affect the health of many people as well who live near the coastline..
Tourism and Fishing and Wildlife as well as recreational sports all wiped out for thousands of Miles..

They say this might go on for months.!!  Can you image the beaches involved from CanCun Mexico to Florida West???

Looks like the Revenge of the Dinosaurs will be our downfall afterall ...
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
 Last edited: by widescreenforever
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
Germany Posts: 6,730
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote:
Tourism and Fishing and Wildlife as well as recreational sports all wiped out for thousands of Miles..

And several decades (regarding the wildlife probably centuries).

I couldn't believe it, when I heard that they don't even use "fail-closed-valves" in the gulf. Would have saved you from the mess. I really hope that someone will sue BP back into the stone age.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


Registrant since 05/22/2003
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 20,111
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
It's ridiculous that it even happened, and the fact that there weren't multiple fail-safes in place for just such a contingency.

It'll almost surely eclipse the damages of the Exxon Valdez disaster. BP will be in it for many billions in damages and reparations for years to come I'm sure. But we're talking about a company that brings in 240 billion in revenue per year.

Let's just hope a hurricane doesn't come to the region anytime soon...
Corey
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantspecise_8472
It wasn't me...
Registered: January 27, 2009
New Zealand Posts: 180
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
I was under the impression that the only reason that they could drill so close to land, was that they had to have failsafe valves in place. Obviously they didn't, or they used the cheap "Made In China" brand.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 20,111
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting specise_8472:
Quote:
I was under the impression that the only reason that they could drill so close to land, was that they had to have failsafe valves in place. Obviously they didn't, or they used the cheap "Made In China" brand.


BP has stated that there was a failsafe installed, but it failed utterly and completely.

The problem is that they installed no backup failsafe in case the one failed. Apparently they didn't want to spend an extra $500,000, and it's not a safety requirement for oil rigs in the United States. Oil companies such as Shell do routinely install them on all of their rigs wherever they may be located.

Would a second failsafe have prevented this disaster? Possibly not, but it sure wouldn't have hurt.
Corey
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantnolesrule
Registered: 09/21/2000
Registered: March 15, 2007
United States Posts: 366
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I live a few miles from the largest coastal tourist destination on peninsular Florida.

It'll kill fishing, but I'm hoping the Gulf Stream currents will actually keep the slick offshore here, although that's bad for the keys and the Atlantic coast.

At least this has put a stop to the "Drill baby drill" crap we've been hearing for months.
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantgardibolt
digitally Obsessed
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 1,414
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Everyone who was screaming Drill Baby Drill should be down there cleaning up the coastline.
"This movie has warped my fragile little mind."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
Don't be discommodious
Registered: March 13, 2007
United States Posts: 21,610
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
They did have some sort of a fail-safe system but for some reason it failed and the platform collapsed on top of the pipeline. I say Keep drilling. Find out what went wrong and stop it from happening again.
ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here

Billy Video
 Last edited: by Winston Smith
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
BP has been ordered to Pay for All clean costs and news has it it may be as high as $12.5 Billion.

Today would be a good day to Dump all your oil shares in British Petroleum and its surrounding companies .. 
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
 Last edited: by widescreenforever
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
big snag today  Oil containment Pillar  not working as expected ..  Box moved off to side due to hydrate buildup.
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
 Last edited: by widescreenforever
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Time to reopen today :    Day 40 .. Top Kill is Not working ...  ...
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 20,111
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting widescreenforever:
Quote:
Time to reopen today :    Day 40 .. Top Kill is Not working ...  ...


...and it's the worst oil spill disaster in the nation's history, now far worse than the Exxon Valdez disaster as I predicted.

It sounds like it will still be spilling oil into August now. And the Hurricane season looms near...
Corey
 Last edited: by Katatonia
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Here is a by-the-numbers look at the ever-expanding oil slick and the efforts to contain it.
As cleanup crews try to cope with environmental damage already caused by the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig disaster, oil continues to gush from the BP well in the Gulf of Mexico.

$930 million US - The amount BP has spent so far to try to plug the well. This figure covers containment efforts, relief well drilling and federal government costs.

12,000-19,000 barrels - Amount of crude oil spilling into the Gulf daily, according to the U.S. Geological Survey.

75 million to 162 million litres - Estimate of how much oil has leaked since the rig exploded and sank in April, killing 11 people.

41 million litres - Amount of oil spilled in the Exxon Valdez disaster in Alaska in 1989.

3.4 million litres - Amount of dispersant tipped into the Gulf to break up the oil. This amount would fill more than 100 tanker trucks.

30,000 - Barrels of mud pumped into the well in the "top kill" bid to block the oil flow.

1.1 million metres - Length of booms, or plastic barriers, used to contain the oil's spread in the Gulf.

20,000 - Personnel working on the spill.

1,400 - Response vessels.

33 - National wildlife refuges at risk due to the oil spill, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.A cattle egret with oil-stained feet walks on the deck of a supply vessel. (Gerald Herbert/Associated Press)

400 - Wildlife species at risk.

491 - Dead birds collected in Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas as of May 30, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service and National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. Not all the deaths were necessarily caused by the oil.

227 - Dead sea turtles collected in those five states as of May 30.

27 - Dead mammals (including dolphins) collected in the five states as of May 30.

9th - Ranking of the Gulf of Mexico on the list of the world's largest bodies of water.

$661 million US - Value of the commercial fish and shellfish harvest in 2008 from the five U.S. Gulf states.

24.1 million US - Recreational fishing trips taken in the Gulf of Mexico in 2008.

$20 billion US - Value of the tourism industry in the Gulf, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
 Last edited: by widescreenforever
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
Retired Profiler
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 20,111
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
It's looking like a real nightmare, and now that they've basically stated that it won't be stopped until at least August...it will only continue to get worse.

As hurricane season looms, mother nature is poised to throw what we've done right back in our faces and prove just how little all of our technology is really worth. If we can't even plug a little hole that we created, how would we ever attempt to halt...oh say...an asteroid hurtling to Earth?
Corey
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbrimac5477
Registered: October 3, 2008
United States Posts: 260
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
it is very upsetting. i hope they can stop the leak. i really have my doubts if they ever can. how can they not have numerous plans in place in the event something like this happened?? the eco system surely wont recover. and i still worry about 2012. is this another sign?? i really dont want to think so!
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorwidescreenforever
Under A Double DoubleW
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
Canada Posts: 5,491
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
If this was a movie.. Bruce Willis would save the day ... 
In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.

Terry
    Invelos Forums->General: General Discussion Page: 1 2 3  Previous   Next