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A Group Divider at the end of a crew section doesn't really end
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCorne
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I didn't really know how to formulate the subject of this topic. So I came up with this. The rules say the following thing:

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Do not add a group end divider at the end of the cast, or at the end of a crew section.


But then the credits in the following crew section will get the group role of the last group in front. For example Moulin Rouge!:

The Music section ends with:
Group: "The Hindi"
Steve Sharples - Songwriter

- Sound
Guntis Sics - Sound
etc.

When I click on Crew Information for Guntis Sics I get the following credit in his list:
+ "The Hindi": Sound

I don't think that this is right, so group end dividers should be added at the end of crew section (except at the end of the Art section) or it is a program error that should be corrected.
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Since Sound is after Music it is not at the end of the crew section. That is only for the end of the complete crew section. Or in other words... yes only for the end of the art category of the crew section.
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I thought a crew section is just a part of the total crew (direction, writing, production etc.). I guess I misread this rule then.
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Quoting Corne:
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I guess I misread this rule then.

You didn't. The rule says: "Do not add a group end divider at the end of the cast, or at the end of a crew section."

IMHO, that clearly refers to each of the eight crew sections, not the crew in its entirety (then, the rule would have said: "or at the end of the crew section", the same way it used the for cast). Instead, I just think you've found a bug...
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The way I have always read that is that there is several crew categories in the one crew section. I can tell you I am the one that mentioned the end of the cast/crew sections to Ken... and that is what was meant when I mentioned it to him.
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"A crew section" (which is what the rule currently says) implies that there is more than one. Else "a" makes no sense: not that the same rule doesn't say "a cast", either. If the crew in it's entirety was meant, the rule would/should have said "the crew section" (again: like it does for cast). Since it doesn't, it can only be referring to each of the eight crew sections.
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That is fine... that just means if Ken meant the same thing I did (as I expect since he didn't have anything like this in the rules till I asked) he just needs to fix one word in the rules to fix the problem. Much easier then a program change.
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Much easier then a program change.

That may very well be, but I'd still very much prefer fixing the bug instead of changing the rules to accomodate it. IMHO, the crew lists look much nicer without those end dividers.
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Don't get me wrong... either way would be fine with me.
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And this particular problem is precisely why I have chosen locally to use Group End at the end of every Group.

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Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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And this particular problem is precisely why I have chosen locally to use Group End at the end of every Group.

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I'm doing the same thing as well now 
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I took "a" crew section to mean each profile has its own crew section.
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Quoting T!M:
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"A crew section" (which is what the rule currently says) implies that there is more than one. Else "a" makes no sense: not that the same rule doesn't say "a cast", either. If the crew in it's entirety was meant, the rule would/should have said "the crew section" (again: like it does for cast). Since it doesn't, it can only be referring to each of the eight crew sections.

Indeed, you have it quite right.  I don't think it was a mistake, however, I think it is just a bug.  Each crew category should, by default, end the group divider above it.
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I found another issue with this rule.

I have a group at the end of the Art section, but I also have crew listed in Other. I can end-group the Art section, so that those in Other are not included in the same group, but when I contribute it looks like I have an end divider at the end of the whole crew section.

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Just contribute without it... then put it in locally.
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My other idea was to add it at the start of the Other section... yeah, don't do that. It causes a crash in the profile. I submitted the crash report to Invelos.
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