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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantdkgibson
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I have several DVDs in my collection that are not in the database:

  • FAA: Runway Safety Collection (no UPC)

  • PBS: The Man Who Knew (no UPC)

  • One of my Wives is Missing

  • Questions:
    1. Should the first two (educational & documentary) be submitted?
    2. What should the front/back cover image sizes be?  The only help I could find, was that they should be at least 100dpi, but I really don't think you want a 3600dpi image uploaded ...
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    To the first two: If they don't have a UPC, then contribute over Disc Id.
    ... And of course submit them.    A user-build database lives from that.

    To the picture size: I think the cover pics in database have a height of 700 dpi, but if you submit bigger pic, they will be resized on 700dpi.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantCalebAndCo
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    Quoting VirusPil:
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    ...To the picture size: I think the cover pics in database have a height of 700 dpi, but if you submit bigger pic, they will be resized on 700dpi.

    (700 pixels high, not dpi.)
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    It's been a while since I submitted much in the way of images, but I was under the impressions it's the width that's constrained (to 500 pixels)
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    Quoting CalebAndCo:
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    ...To the picture size: I think the cover pics in database have a height of 700 dpi, but if you submit bigger pic, they will be resized on 700dpi.

    (700 pixels high, not dpi.)


    Oops, embarrassing.  Of course you're right.
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributormreeder50
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    Actually it's 500 pixels by 700 pixels or whichever comes first, so the end dimensions will be 500 by XXX or XXX by 700. I believe the dpi is 100, but don't quote me on that one. Someone will correct me if I am wrong.
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    Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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    It's been a while since I submitted much in the way of images, but I was under the impressions it's the width that's constrained (to 500 pixels)


    Hmm, perhaps both is right. Limited on high to 700 and width to 500. (Have to check some more profiles, to say sure)

    Edit: I see, mreeder50 was faster.
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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRomzarah
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    All my scans have been done at 200 dpi, but as soon as you add them to the profile the DVDP program drops them to 72 dpi. And for that reason I have stopped contributing scans. 72dpi is a web standard and not high res. If you are doing your own scans you can name the image files to the UPC code with f for front and b for back and put them in the images folder to keep them at the dpi you scanned them at. If you contribute them they will be dropped to 72 dpi. example 01234567890f and 01234567890b
    DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantAgrare
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    Quoting Romzarah:
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    All my scans have been done at 200 dpi, but as soon as you add them to the profile the DVDP program drops them to 72 dpi. And for that reason I have stopped contributing scans. 72dpi is a web standard and not high res. If you are doing your own scans you can name the image files to the UPC code with f for front and b for back and put them in the images folder to keep them at the dpi you scanned them at. If you contribute them they will be dropped to 72 dpi. example 01234567890f and 01234567890b


    The program will accept 100 dpi, you probably have your quality settings for the images set lower (not sure exactly where the option is, think its on the page where you change the scan through the program). I don't go through the program to change my images but drop them directly in the images folder after renaming them. I convert my images to the 100 dpi  and 500 max width or 700 max height (whichever comes first) and contribute like that and they stay at 100 dpi even after contributing.

    the other limiting factor is the file size which is limited to 200,000 bytes. Files will also be reduced down to meet this requirement

    -Agrare
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    AE7:

    I have sent you the specific procedure that i have followed for my ultra-high resolution images (800DPI). Thes images are the basis for all of my own files, the advantage of the higher resolution is a larger color pallette and far better detail than you can achieve in a smaller format. Even though the ultimate image at Invelos will only be 72DPI, 800DPI in my experience (10 years scanning for profiler) gives the best possible images for that conversion.

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    Billy Video
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    There is really no need to convert the images locally before submitting anymore since the program is now doing a reasonably good job when you contribute them. So you can keep any size scans you wish locally and still submit them without any harm done.
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    Quoting Romzarah:
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    72dpi is a web standard and not high res.

    Perhaps not high res, but a 23" widescreen monitor is only a 96 dpi device, so scans of 100dpi don't sound unreasonable to me.

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    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorRomzarah
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    I do have my setting to high res scan in DVDP, it auto converts them to 72 dpi. I will just keep all my scans local for now on as I don't think Invelos will up their standards.
    DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMuckl
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    Besides 100 dpi, 500 px width and 700 px height there's also a file size limit of 200.000 bytes (~ 195 kB) for the online database. If the submitted image exceeds any of these four thresholds, the image will be automatically adjusted. So, you should adapt the images to the limits with an acceptable image editor before submitting – this will result in a better image quality compared to the conversion done by the server.

    EDIT: Somehow I totally missed Agrare's post... guess it's time again to see the eye doctor 

    For local use don't load the scans from within DVDP, but copy the .jpg files into "My Documents\DVD Profiler\Databases\<YOUR DB NAME>\Images" (or whatever location your database is saved in). The filename pattern is UPC.Locality followed by "f" for the front cover or "b" for the back (e.g. 043396904897b.jpg + 043396904897f.jpg or 0044005827422.5b.jpg + 0044005827422.5f.jpg).
     
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    Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeKen Cole
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    Changing an images' DPI setting does not inherently change the resolution or quality.  The top image here is 72 DPI and the bottom one is 600 DPI:



    As others have mentioned, the max resolution of a contributed image is 500x700 pixels.  The DPI setting is unrelated to image quality and won't affect how it is displayed or printed in DVD Profiler.
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    "DPI" is a print term, it is meaningless for on screen display. The standard is usually 72 DPI, although sometimes it's 96, but it doesn't matter.

    In Ken's example, the bottom image will be much smaller than the top image once it is printed out.

    As far as scanners go, it's usually best to set the scan resolution to match the scanner's optical resolution. This is different than the scanner's max digital resolution... if its optical resolution is 1200 DPI and its max digital resolution is 3600 DPI, then if you actually scan at 3600, the scanner software just does a resize.

    So the general rule of thumb is to scan the image at your scanner's optical resolution (look it up in the spec section of the manual), then resize to 500 pixels wide or 700 pixels tall, whichever puts the other below 500 or 700, respectively.
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