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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantSilvercast
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As I read the Box Set rules, every Box Set should have at least two attached profiles. There are some cases where I find there is only one profile attached to a box set, and the box set entry itself takes the place of the primary child profile.

Example:  The 2006 US DVD release of "Gojira" has one attached profile for "Godzilla, King of the Monsters." Is this the correct way to do this, or should there be a Box Set entry with separate attached profiles for "Gojira" and "Godzilla, KOTM"?

Thanks. Just trying to understand the rules before I send in contributions.
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If there are two discs (one film on each), there should be two 'Child' profiles. One for each film.
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Depends, if it's a bonus feature film. Then the main feature will be the parent and the bonus film will be the (optional) child.
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Thanks, GreyHulk and Kinoniki. There are two separate discs, one for "Gojira" and one for "Godzilla, King of the Monsters" each clearly labled with the name of the film.  The bonus rule, as I understand it, would not seem to apply.

My guess is that "Gojira" was created as a profile before Box Set entires were possilble, and then later the profile for "Godzilla, KOTM" was attached to "Gojira" rather there being an entry created for the Gojira Box Set, and the two individual films attached.
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This is, indeed, a bonus feature film release.  'Gojira: The Original Japanese Masterpiece', is the main feature and 'Godzilla, King of the Monsters' is the bonus feature film.
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Yes, the Bonus Feature Film rules do apply here. From the rules:

Bonus Feature Films  The term "Bonus Feature Film" is used to define any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release. These are not the same as Double Features or Anthology Collections which are a collection of films grouped together which require the "Box Set" contribution rules. Do not confuse "Bonus Feature Films" with "Any video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." Those are Featurettes. Some examples of Bonus Feature Films are:

    * Previous movie versions, example "Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition" which includes the 1925 version.
    * Companion movie bonuses, example "Season of the Witch" which includes "There's Always Vanilla" from the same director.

Create the profile for the main feature in line with the standard Contribution Rules with the title of the Bonus Feature Film added to the Other Features field. Create a child profile for the "Bonus Feature Film" using the individual UPC if available or use Disc ID (read on a DVD-ROM) if not available. When creating a child profile, do not remove the "Bonus Feature Film" Disc ID from the main profile. When profiling the "Bonus Feature Film", only profile the data associated with that film. Any features associated with the Main Feature belong to the Main Feature profile. Add the additional profile to the Main Profile as a child profile via the Box Set button. Cover Images: Use the cover image from the Main Feature profile's packaging. Exception: If the "Bonus Feature Film" is individually packaged, use the cover images from that packaging.
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This is, indeed, a bonus feature film release.  'Gojira: The Original Japanese Masterpiece', is the main feature and 'Godzilla, King of the Monsters' is the bonus feature film.



Must agree with the Martian here.

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Thanks for help with the Bonus Feature rule.

Does it matter that the front cover of the box (and it is literally, a hinged box, containing two separate identically packaged discs, one in each half of the box) states "Includes the US theatrical release GODZILLA, KING OF THE MONSTERS"?
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Thanks, GreyHulk and Kinoniki. There are two separate discs, one for "Gojira" and one for "Godzilla, King of the Monsters" each clearly labled with the name of the film.  The bonus rule, as I understand it, would not seem to apply.

My guess is that "Gojira" was created as a profile before Box Set entires were possilble, and then later the profile for "Godzilla, KOTM" was attached to "Gojira" rather there being an entry created for the Gojira Box Set, and the two individual films attached.

Gojira is correct as is because it is a Bonus film a la Ben-Hur it is nto a truie boxset.

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Thanks for help with the Bonus Feature rule.

Does it matter that the front cover of the box (and it is literally, a hinged box, containing two separate identically packaged discs, one in each half of the box) states "Includes the US theatrical release GODZILLA, KING OF THE MONSTERS"?

No, it does not matter.  The entire case is for Gojira and, as you mention, the only indication that the other film is included is the line that reads, "Includes the US theatrical release GODZILLA, KING OF THE MONSTERS".

For this to be an actual box set, the packaging would have to represent both films.
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For this to be an actual box set, the packaging would have to represent both films.

???

Rules : "The term "Box Set" is used to define any release that includes more than one film. The main examples are:
    * Sets where each film is packaged individually, and held together in a package of some kind."


Rules say nothing about the package to have to represent both films.
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That is because, in order to cause confusion and chaos Yves you are reading from the wrong Rules

Bonus Feature Films The term "Bonus Feature Film" is used to define any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release. These are not the same as Double Features or Anthology Collections which are a collection of films grouped together which require the "Box Set" contribution rules. Do not confuse "Bonus Feature Films" with "Any video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." Those are Featurettes. Some examples of Bonus Feature Films are:

    * Previous movie versions, example "Ben-Hur: Four-Disc Collector's Edition" which includes the 1925 version.
    * Companion movie bonuses, example "Season of the Witch" which includes "There's Always Vanilla" from the same director.

You need to be more conversant with ALL of the Rules.

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That is because, in order to cause confusion and chaos Yves you are reading from the wrong Rules
Bonus Feature Films The term "Bonus Feature Film" is used to define any feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release.


In this case, we have not the second movie included in the bonus list of the first one. We have a package with two different movies included with each an indivdual pakaging.
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No they are not two different films. They are two different versions of the SAME film, mostly the SAME cast and crew, ecept for differences imposed by the US version, but they are NOT two different movies. I understand that Forum Moderator: Removed personal comment, you wanted it to be a boxset and thus you looked at the boxset Rules to do so, while ignoring the Bonus feature Film rule from elsewhere. This is not unlike the problems we encountered on names, til Ken fixed it,  a user goes and does research on a name to prove their desired objective, while ignoring the sum total of the data or ANY data which does not give them their desired result.

Forum Moderator: Removed personal comment

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No they are not two different films.


Where is Raymond Burr in Godjira (1954) ? He is the main role in Godzilla, King of the Monsters (1956).

If you really think that two movies produced in different years with different actors are not "different", I understand easily why we disagree.
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I agree that this is a Bonus Feature Film, because it's a "feature film that is included as part of the bonus material for a single release."

On the backside it's listed under "Features"
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