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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
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Forgive me for being stupid, but is their any real need for parsing? Would it not make everything easier if it was just one field for the full name?

This is an honest question as I have a feeling I'm missing something totally
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The argument for parsing relates to sorting actors.  Without parsing you would not be able to sort actors by last name.
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I knew it was something simple I was missing. Duh.
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This has been asked before and, if memory serves, has always been shot down because going to a single field would cause us to lose the 'sort by last name' ability.  Ken seems to agree that it is an important feature.

Edit: Curse my slow fingers.
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I knew it was something simple I was missing. Duh.

That says all too much.

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I knew it was something simple I was missing. Duh.

That says all too much.

Skip


Jesus Christ. I wish I had what you had on owners to be able to consistently troll with no fear of repercussion. 
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I knew it was something simple I was missing. Duh.

That says all too much.

Skip


Totally uncalled for!
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For gods sake Ken. If I had your phone number I would phone you and ask you to lock immediately.
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You know. I'm editing and removing this post. I'm a better person than Skip and not only because I'm English
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I knew it was something simple I was missing. Duh.

That says all too much.

Skip


Yet I can differentiate between deleted scenes and outtakes.
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Forgive me for being stupid, but is their any real need for parsing?

No.

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Would it not make everything easier if it was just one field for the full name?

Yes.
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The argument for parsing relates to sorting actors.  Without parsing you would not be able to sort actors by last name.


Which is something i don't understand, at least why anyone wants/needs this. Do people really go through the actors list in profiler. Dont you just type in the actor you need (because of interest of for profiling purposes) and than you find him, regardless of parsing/sorting issues?

I asked this before but never really got an answer from anyone.

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You know. I'm editing and removing this post. I'm a better person than Skip and not only because I'm English


Who lives in Scotland.
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Forgive me for being stupid, but is their any real need for parsing?

Yes.

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Would it not make everything easier if it was just one field for the full name?

No.
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The argument for parsing relates to sorting actors.  Without parsing you would not be able to sort actors by last name.


Which is something i don't understand, at least why anyone wants/needs this. Do people really go through the actors list in profiler. Dont you just type in the actor you need (because of interest of for profiling purposes) and than you find him, regardless of parsing/sorting issues?

I asked this before but never really got an answer from anyone.

That'll be because there is no good answer. Parsing really only has brought us pointless multiple, non-linking entries for virtually EVERY name in the database consisting of more than two parts. It's sole purposes seem to be: (a) to break linking, and (b) to cause endless debates over what is the "correct" parsing of any given individual (fine example here). And there's no sign of improvement: the fact that several years (!) after the initial discussion there are still plenty of H/B/C entries in the database shows as much. And that's about the one name of which we've all actually agreed on the parsing.... 
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Personally I would never have a reason to use the parsings.
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