Your post is a bit too vague to address. The one thing I can say based on the thread title is that Invelos's Jr./Sr. suffixes standard indeed supercedes the CLT results: their common names are always listed in our database WITH the comma, even when the CLT shows that they're mostly credited without it. Since it's only ever been accounced in the forums, not too many people know about it, though - I find myself having to point people to this thread all the time.

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Your post is a bit too vague to address. The one thing I can say based on the thread title is that Invelos's Jr./Sr. suffixes standard indeed supercedes the CLT results: their common names are always listed in our database WITH the comma, even when the CLT shows that they're mostly credited without it. Since it's only ever been accounced in the forums, not too many people know about it, though - I find myself having to point people to this thread all the time.

That thread spuns 17 pages, thank you, T!M.

To be more precise, I changed "Efrem Zimbalist, Jr." to "Efrem Zimbalist,Jr." (as credited).

My expectation was, that the filter would add the "common" name, which it didn't.

So, does the filter not cover all variations of " ,Jr."?    (*1)

If so, intentionally?

And if not, should still the standard filter name be used, against the rules? Or in a case, where
a filter isn't activated, the real common, that is the most credited, name? Which would be "Efrem Zimbalist Jr."?

(1*) Just out of curiosity: how do you calculate the number of " ,Jr."-variations?

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To cut a long story somewhat shorter: If it's correct that the credit is without the blank (obviously an error of the creditmakers) the correct entry would be "Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. [Efrem Zimbalist,Jr.]

Indeed.

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To cut a long story somewhat shorter: If it's correct that the credit is without the blank (obviously an error of the creditmakers) the correct entry would be "Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. [Efrem Zimbalist,Jr.]

Indeed.

Agreed.

I voted no on this change. I agree with Goblinsdoitall on how he should be credited using credited as and keeping the link between this and other movies.

Paul

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Could you provide a screenshot?

Yes.

(end credits)

It looks to me like there IS a space between the comma and the "J", though not a very big one.  If there were NO space, I think the comma would be much closer to the "J" than it is, like between the "R" and the period in the same credit.  As I look at the actual screen cap, I'd agree with those who say that no "credited as ,Jr." is necessary or appropriate.

I don't think that the gap is any bigger than the one on either side of the M. So either both need to have a space or none do. I think change to Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. [Efrem Zimbalist,Jr.] as suggested by others.

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It looks to me like there IS a space between the comma and the "J", though not a very big one.  If there were NO space, I think the comma would be much closer to the "J" than it is, like between the "R" and the period in the same credit.  As I look at the actual screen cap, I'd agree with those who say that no "credited as ,Jr." is necessary or appropriate.

It's easy to see that there is no space, if you compare it with "as Sam Hendrix": much smaller font size, much bigger gap.

Whether we think it's intentional or not - I'd say it's merely a "formatting choice" from the guy typing up the credits - really doesn't matter at all. The one thing that does matter, is that this credit links together with his credits as "Efrem Zimbalist Jr." and "Efrem Zimbalist, Jr.". We do that by using the latter as his common name, and using the "credited as" feature for any differently formatted variants.