Is it so hard to ask for re-releases with the same UPC to be worked into the database. Why should members that never bought a copy right on day 1 be forced to have this inaccrucey in the database when we paid for the service.

Also why are slip covers counted 

For most there only out on certain DVD's for a very short time and should not be counted as the cover really.

There nothing more than a bit of extra packing to try and get people to pay the full chart price for the film.

I agree. I have learned that I would rather wait a while and get more DVDs for less money. And as far as slip covers go, I went to Target recently (The Golden Girls $8.99 a season) and I noticed a cart filled with slip covers; they were throwing them out!

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I think what your saying is your just being to lazy to make the necessary changes to allow such things on the database things which i don't think are that complicated or in particle.

Despite what some might believe, Skip isn't in charge of this program so what he may or may not want isn't relevant here. It's all up to Ken to decide if it's feasible to add into the system.

Besides, it's entirely possible to have your collection 100% accurately locally.

I see what you're saying & of course I would prefer it. I don't know how many people worked on or how big DVD Spot was as I hadn't come across it before it's demise but DVDP only has one developer and I'm pretty sure there are other features which take priority over this one which can be done, albeit at a local level only.

Of course, Ken might completely surprise us with the next version. We just don't know until it's announced!

Until such tima as ken allows for it, if he ever does, then you simply follow the rules, death. End of subject. Re-release data or covers is NOT permitted, but must be maintained.  You bought the program because it is relatively inexpensive as compared to other similar but weaker programs, I suspect. The storage to deal with everyone's cover preference and possibilites costs MONEY. I am not expressing my personal feelings, I am trying to explain it to you because i do understand the issue, a decsiion was made for economical reasons, if ken choses to allow the program to do something, then that is his choice as the programmer/owner.

The choice was simple actually, we could deal with the data as Originally released (including Covers) or we could allow users to run rampant and put whatever piece of art existed in their collection, or deal with whatever the current release data shows. I am sure you understand that the second option is absurd on its face, users would be replacing cover art on a weekly basis as they battled for their OWN perference. The third option is difficult, because re-release specifics such as SRP and release date are difficult if not impossible to locate. So due to the both the storage issue and availability of correct data it was decided to stay with ORIGINAL release. You are not the FIRST user to carp about it and you won't be the last, but for it was it is. Any decisions regarding the future are up to Ken.

All you can do is accept it, carping about it will do you no good, except to give you an ulcer. Like I said i do not even talk about how i feel about it personally, it's not relevant. I can explain the whys and wherefores and that is all there is, there is nothing more to be said about it.

For every user

this program is not perfect, no program is perfect, there are features that I want to see that would be useful to me, and the same applies to every other user. we all have things that we might like to see implemented in the Program, this program has been around for 10 years, longer i think than nearly any program past orm present, even DVDSpot, which I personally thought was a terribkly written program and did not even come close to my needs. My answer, after playing with it for awhile, as I do all programs, I chose NOT to use it. That was my choice, the choice we all have is the same accept the shortcomings, and understand the background, which I tried to explain, or move on and perhaps find something that is more compatible with what you want to see. Otherwise all I can offer is an explanation of the background, which I did, just as my personal feeling are irrelevant, so to is feelings about the background. From my point of view your initial comments were not that of Gee, I would like to be able to do this...but instead came of more as I want this, i paid for the program and I have a right to do it and that is an attitude that gets under my skin...FAST.

Like I said you are not the FIRST user to talk about it, nor will you be the last, just about anything that you might think about HAS been talked about many times before. All I will tell you is try to understand the rationale, no need to make insulting remarks about someone being lazy (especially when that someone has no control). Sit back, relax and see waht kindof new toys we get to play with with each and every new version.

Skip<shrugs>

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There is not enough room avaiblle for every user to be able to have HIS/HER preferred cover Online, graphics take up a lot of storage space.

While this is probably true for our local covers, it shouldn't be true to alternate release covers. I recall when there were discussions of whether to allow disc-level profiles for TV sets (and the cover images for each) and Ken said that storage was not a problem. That leads me to believe that if we can bloat up the database with duplicate covers for 5-10 disc-level profiles for a TV set, it should be no problem (from a storage perspective) to allow for alternate releases (different covers, video formats) which use the same UPC.

This is what im looking for some constructive dialogue on this. I don't want to turn this into a farce i don't think im the only one who has this problem.

Right now my collection as it stands is not relay online. I sold about half my DVD's cause i thought i would just wait till Blu-ray took over Blu-ray.

Which i regret now but meh when your young you do stupid things 

I managed to build a collection at the time of over 800 movies in about 2 years and i plan to build my collection pretty quick again 

So i will be needing a good online database with spot now dead.

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There is not enough room avaiblle for every user to be able to have HIS/HER preferred cover Online, graphics take up a lot of storage space.

While this is probably true for our local covers, it shouldn't be true to alternate release covers. I recall when there were discussions of whether to allow disc-level profiles for TV sets (and the cover images for each) and Ken said that storage was not a problem. That leads me to believe that if we can bloat up the database with duplicate covers for 5-10 disc-level profiles for a TV set, it should be no problem (from a storage perspective) to allow for alternate releases (different covers, video formats) which use the same UPC.

James:

I understand what you are saying. But it's absurd. Neither one of us is in a position to know factually about this. What do we know. We know that covers are graphics and that graphics require massive amounts of storage, we also know that storage is NOT free, there is a cost associated with it, which is directly reflected in what Ken has to charge for the program.  Your pontificating is worthless and non-productive, if ken decides that he can cope with multiple covers, which will take some programming in addition to the storage side, then I am sure we will see it...someday on his time frame...not ours. We are customeers, nothing more or less. I will only say that I think this a major change in the program and as such I would not look for it until version 4.0, whenever that is, not 3.6 which is next planned version from what we read.

Skip

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I do believe there may be technical difficulty to achieve this.

A DVD is identified by it's title and it's UPC. If both are identical, you have duplicate records in the database. If you have 2 records in the database, where both identifiers are equal, how is the program to know which title you want to download or upload.

Unless there is a 3rd unique identifier for each record, I believe this would require a redesign of the database table structure.

One is listed as in brackets re-release