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Apologies to Surfeur51 (Reputation System Abuse)
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
Registered: May 19, 2007
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EDIT: I have to express my deepest apologies to Yves (surfeur51).
I misunderstood him completely. What I read as a threat was in fact meant completely different and obviously not as a threat at all.

Sorry Yves, don' think we can really be friends after this (as the end of this thread asked), but probably we can talk like normal people again.

To all that gave me positive votes for the original posting, please withdraw them as I don't deserve these.


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It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
Registered: March 15, 2007
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I would have sent it straight to Ken anyway. That kind of blackmail is totally unacceptable. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantDan W
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Forward the PM to Ken.
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Never had it happen... I would PM Ken about the situation.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
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Quoting northbloke:
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I would have sent it straight to Ken anyway. That kind of blackmail is totally unacceptable. 

You are the 4th now telling so, the rest came via PM. Consider it done.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantkahless
TaH pagh taHbe'!
Registered: March 14, 2007
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What a shame!

Don't worry! The misusage of the reputation system is gutless and totally unacceptable. User, trying to blackmail others, do not have a piece of social competence and should be temporary banned from posting and voting. I really mean temporary, because IMHO everyone deserves the chance to social rehabilitation.
But this should not be a gift! An apology is the minimum! If the referring user is not able to do so, he should be excluded from this community.

So, maybe this is the end of my high rating as well, but freedom of opinion has my priority 
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tonight's the night...
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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Quoting northbloke:
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I would have sent it straight to Ken anyway. That kind of blackmail is totally unacceptable. 

You are the 4th now telling so, the rest came via PM. Consider it done.

Excellent. 

Quoting kahless:
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What a shame!

Don't worry! The misusage of the reputation system is gutless and totally unacceptable. User, trying to blackmail others, do not have a piece of social competence and should be temporary banned from posting and voting. I really mean temporary, because IMHO everyone deserves the chance to social rehabilitation.
But this should not be a gift! An apology is the minimum! If the referring user is not able to do so, he should be excluded from this community.

So, maybe this is the end of my high rating as well, but freedom of opinion has my priority 

I don't know if you'll be able to extract an apology from someone in a manner that's meaningful, but as long as they can jump back in and contribute productively, that's proof of the rehabilitation. And hopefully this can all be conducted behind the scenes between Invelos and the users involved.
...James

"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDarxon
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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This is an outrage and completely unacceptable behavior. 

This attempt at blackmail is by far the worst manifestation of social incompetence I have seen displayed in these forums, and oh yes what new highs in lows have we been witnessing in the past. This, however, surpasses EVERYTHING that has happened here so far.

Sending these PMs to Ken is the only solution, and I would welcome an official statement regarding this issue by Ken and/or Gerry as well.

And the user should be banned permanently, not temporarily, as I do NOT wish to communicate unknowingly with someone capable of criminal behavior over the constitutionally guaranteed right of free speech in a forum. And who knows what else has been going on since the introduction of the reputation system without being made public?

I am disgusted <and search for a emoticon that spits or vomits on the floor>!
Lutz
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Quoting m.cellophane:
I don't know if you'll be able to extract an apology from someone in a manner that's meaningful, but as long as they can jump back in and contribute productively, that's proof of the rehabilitation.

Well said! If an apology is meaningful or not is the decision of the offended user.
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And hopefully this can all be conducted behind the scenes between Invelos and the users involved.

Would be nice, but maybe too late! I'm afraid that the cause of this conflict already started in front of the scenes. Let's wait and see and hope the best!
Thorsten
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I am disgusted <and search for a emoticon that spits or vomits on the floor>!


Thorsten
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantMark Harrison
I like IMDB
Registered: March 13, 2007
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And the user should be banned permanently, not temporarily, as I do NOT wish to communicate unknowingly with someone capable of criminal behavior over the constitionally guaranteed right of free speech in a forum.


We have no guaranteed right of free speech in this forum.  This is a privately owned forum and we have whatever rights Invelos grants us.  Free speech doesn't apply here.

Not that I disagree with your message of course.  Just trying to set the facts straight.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
Here's my card
Registered: May 19, 2007
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I dare someone to try and blackmail me.

Yes, I do accept black envelopes.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
Registered: March 19, 2007
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Utterly disgraceful, this kind of blackmail! 
Michael, you have my sympathy.
I hope this will be taken care of swifty and effectively.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
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Glad you sent the PMs to Ken.

This is totally contrary to the purpose of the system!

I'd love to know who the user was????? 
Hal
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Hello old friends!
Registered: March 13, 2007
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While I don't condone what has happened let's not blow this out of proportion. All we know is one user threatened to give some a negative vote. The OP says himself he "assumes" the threat comes from a group. And all he did was say he would give a negative vote, not exactly the end of the world.

I have been threatened via PM by one of the most vocal people on this forum on more than one occasion and I know others have been as well. Threats of "making my life miserable if I don't stop corrupting the db." Well that (to me) is more of a threat than someone saying they will give you a negative vote. I made the decision to block any further PMs. I would suggest you do the same here.

Report it to Ken and move on. That's all you can do and IMO all that needs to be done. As Mark said, we have whatever rights Invelos gives us. Put down the pitchforks and let Ken do whatever he feels he needs to do.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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While you're probably right that the threats you received are even worse, it still constitutes total abuse of the reputation system to receive threats just for taking a different position.
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